Official International Punaball Championship #1 (OIPC#1)
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As usual, cups and competitions are full of drama and accusations.
oldschool slider <3 | Hengari @ Quakenet/IRCnet
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That can be for my bad english, anyway you don't deserve any respect, cheating in a simple game... This is painful.ZagaMofo wrote:
1st of all is that if you want something ask god... cause this is not a mcdrive.
Hmm, if you want I can give you the conversation with Mike, he didn't say that he knows the cheatZagaMofo wrote:2nd... why the hell should me and pix be disqualified and not mike and sting? Is that bcause we rape your team so strong like a Cardozo's kick ?
Y esto te lo digo en español porque supongo que al ser portugués me entenderás, gente como tu DA ASCO.ZagaMofo wrote:3rd... "I lost on purpose... Oh man... lets disqualifie them!" just great though!
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Blah, disgusting. You know, this wouldn't be the first time those Portuguese guys cheated in favor of their little buddy Sting. Unfortunately though, I'm afraid there's not a whole lot that can be done; anything is possible in Punaball and there's no telling what would've happened. The 3-team groups seemed nice on paper, but I guess they were a bad idea after all, for this exact reason.
Asca-mus... também percebeste esta oh casillas do crl ?Ibon wrote:That can be for my bad english, anyway you don't deserve any respect, cheating in a simple game... This is painful.ZagaMofo wrote:
1st of all is that if you want something ask god... cause this is not a mcdrive.
Hmm, if you want I can give you the conversation with Mike, he didn't say that he knows the cheatZagaMofo wrote:2nd... why the hell should me and pix be disqualified and not mike and sting? Is that bcause we rape your team so strong like a Cardozo's kick ?
Y esto te lo digo en español porque supongo que al ser portugués me entenderás, gente como tu DA ASCO.ZagaMofo wrote:3rd... "I lost on purpose... Oh man... lets disqualifie them!" just great though!
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Show me the rule that if i want to lose a game on purpose that i cant do it...
well gotta admit... Even more sad than scud quiting!
If i was one of organisers, I'll desqualified both teams and make a draw with all teams that couldnt qualified , the "winner" joins Spanish warriors to 2nd round. None of those teams deserve to continue in tournament.period!
Oh and Zagamofo there's no need to write a rule that say u cant loose a game on purpose... the answer its just ........ DOH!
If i was one of organisers, I'll desqualified both teams and make a draw with all teams that couldnt qualified , the "winner" joins Spanish warriors to 2nd round. None of those teams deserve to continue in tournament.period!
Oh and Zagamofo there's no need to write a rule that say u cant loose a game on purpose... the answer its just ........ DOH!
Yeah, disqualify also those who are the victims of foul play. Nice.Storm wrote:If i was one of organisers, I'll desqualified both teams and make a draw with all teams that couldnt qualified , the "winner" joins Spanish warriors to 2nd round. None of those teams deserve to continue in tournament.period!
oldschool slider <3 | Hengari @ Quakenet/IRCnet
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Zeesh, lul.Storm wrote:Stinike are no victims! It was a arranged game, so both teams (StiNike and barnabes) should be disqualified. In fact the victims are the Spanish Warriors.Yeah, disqualify also those who are the victims of foul play. Nice.
I meant just that, SW is the victim.
Normally you don't accuse the winning party for arranged game (in football or in finland baseball) but just the team which loses. But in this case when the other team loses for the winning team and the numbers could be agreed beforehand... well
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oldschool slider <3 | Hengari @ Quakenet/IRCnet
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First of all: Ibon, it's not good that you just write down the 2 lines:
In my opinion there is an unwritten rule of sportsmanship/fairplay, that every match has to be played fair. Unfortunately, i guess, there is no rule written down against this play in this cup...so actually it's hard to say Zaga and Pix did something wrong...
Anyway, i didn't like to support Zaga and Pix to lose on purpose vs us, so i told them a) to play serious and b) that i will probably try to win with more than 7 goals difference, if there is the chance to...(i also wanted to play vs them before they play vs SW...)
During the game there was a scene where i had the feeling, Zaga missed to block a ball on purpose, so i didn't make a goal on purpose there...
In the 2nd leg, i made the 6-4 2 seconds before the end, bit lucky and even Zagas defensive line seemed to be bad on purpose, it wasn't easy to make that goal...
After the match i requested a 2nd match and requested again to play serious and this time, they also played serious (a bit more offensive though, not timeplaying defensively, like they probably should have, normally..maybe). The result was similar, but i played a bit worse, made 2-3 mistakes more and caused a few goals difference worse. Sting and me won in 2 legs with 5 goals difference.
Since it seemed that Sting and me deserved to win there, i finally accepted the 15-8 from the match before, since both of our teams seemed to be the best of the group (in the 1st match vs SW i wasn't goalkeeper, like in the 2nd match, so we had a crazy bad result there).
Today, i told Ibon/Luisma though, that i support the solution, that there could be a rematch or something (all 3 for example) and if not, that Sting and me may be disqualified. Wanted to let Ibon/Luisma or the cuporganisation to decide about that...
Well..in the end it's quite hard to say: it's actually not very sportsmanshiplike, i think. On the other hand there is no rule written down against it: so, since only Zaga and Pix had it in their hands, with how many goals they lose or not, it's probably their right to do so...if they want Sting and me to move to next round. The only chance against, is a rule or Sting and me could have lose on purpose or try to win... -> i didn't want to lose, even this cup is just for fun -> and since it's for fun, i immediately wanted a more serious match right after - since nothing is compareable with the bonus adrenaline in a kind of an official cup situation where little mistakes are punished hard and you have to fight for every single goal or second..
It's not all what happened. As consequence other people are getting a wrong image about this...Well, if all this is insufficient, we have a conversation with Mike Nike where he admits that third match was cheated. In that conversation Mike tell us that Zaga and Pix didn't play fair.
In my opinion there is an unwritten rule of sportsmanship/fairplay, that every match has to be played fair. Unfortunately, i guess, there is no rule written down against this play in this cup...so actually it's hard to say Zaga and Pix did something wrong...
Anyway, i didn't like to support Zaga and Pix to lose on purpose vs us, so i told them a) to play serious and b) that i will probably try to win with more than 7 goals difference, if there is the chance to...(i also wanted to play vs them before they play vs SW...)
During the game there was a scene where i had the feeling, Zaga missed to block a ball on purpose, so i didn't make a goal on purpose there...
In the 2nd leg, i made the 6-4 2 seconds before the end, bit lucky and even Zagas defensive line seemed to be bad on purpose, it wasn't easy to make that goal...
After the match i requested a 2nd match and requested again to play serious and this time, they also played serious (a bit more offensive though, not timeplaying defensively, like they probably should have, normally..maybe). The result was similar, but i played a bit worse, made 2-3 mistakes more and caused a few goals difference worse. Sting and me won in 2 legs with 5 goals difference.
Since it seemed that Sting and me deserved to win there, i finally accepted the 15-8 from the match before, since both of our teams seemed to be the best of the group (in the 1st match vs SW i wasn't goalkeeper, like in the 2nd match, so we had a crazy bad result there).
Today, i told Ibon/Luisma though, that i support the solution, that there could be a rematch or something (all 3 for example) and if not, that Sting and me may be disqualified. Wanted to let Ibon/Luisma or the cuporganisation to decide about that...
Well..in the end it's quite hard to say: it's actually not very sportsmanshiplike, i think. On the other hand there is no rule written down against it: so, since only Zaga and Pix had it in their hands, with how many goals they lose or not, it's probably their right to do so...if they want Sting and me to move to next round. The only chance against, is a rule or Sting and me could have lose on purpose or try to win... -> i didn't want to lose, even this cup is just for fun -> and since it's for fun, i immediately wanted a more serious match right after - since nothing is compareable with the bonus adrenaline in a kind of an official cup situation where little mistakes are punished hard and you have to fight for every single goal or second..
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Allright. Stinike and Barnabés Team repeated their match playing seriously this time. Barnabés Team won 12-8, so Barnabés Team and Spanish Warriors go to the 2nd round. StiNike drops off.
Spanish Warriors replace StiNike in group G, so in group G there are: xzeal+Rogue, [fS] and Spanish Warriors.
Like Tijny said, 3 teams in the group isn't good. Still let's play this cup fairly to the end without that kind of cheating, please.
Spanish Warriors replace StiNike in group G, so in group G there are: xzeal+Rogue, [fS] and Spanish Warriors.
Like Tijny said, 3 teams in the group isn't good. Still let's play this cup fairly to the end without that kind of cheating, please.
