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Stick a sock in it. I watched your first 3 laps, and the only one who was actually too rough was Pilburn; the other incidents were either just bad luck, or because you drove a slow line yourself. If you think you don't belong there, you should just qualify better in the first place.Etmil wrote:This cup am f*** rough. All the guys in the back overtook by roughing during the first laps. Well, rock on with your bad selves.. 17th is not where Etmil's supposed to finish.
Well, as for myself, I was on course for 2nd, until I forgot to pit. So f*** you all, 13th is not where Tijny is supposed to finish.
Daaaaaaamn!!! That was the best rece I have ever drove in official cups. It was so fun. Anti is a God. Sure, there was so many rough moves. I think I crashed in Pingu, and he didn't let me pass, not so sure; I have no video. Maybe he crashed in somebody accidentally too. I had so many great fights like in real F1. I think that the best was with Jan...nice inside - outside positioning to attack and defend the place.
The track was just great. Well done Janne. I found 2 good places for overtaking. 1st curve was the best for it.
And, just like Tijny, I run out of fuel... but daaaaaamn...in the fu**ing last lap, in the last few curves.
I calculated that I will need 100%, then 100% again, and then 56%. Somehow I decided to set 56% on the beginning to have easier work after with 2x100 and have faster car in first laps to make some overtakes. Then I realized that I will not be able to correct my fuel amount after (because I can't fill more then 100 in first and second pit stop
). But that was just to late; I did that just few seconds before dede started the race. When I saw 56% on the start, I knew that my all laps have to be totally clear if I don't want to see empty tank in last laps. And, of course, I failed. 
But, as I said, that was the funniest official race since I play TS online.
Did I said that dede was so fu**ing fast? Congrats.
Please, upload the video.
The track was just great. Well done Janne. I found 2 good places for overtaking. 1st curve was the best for it.
And, just like Tijny, I run out of fuel... but daaaaaamn...in the fu**ing last lap, in the last few curves.
I calculated that I will need 100%, then 100% again, and then 56%. Somehow I decided to set 56% on the beginning to have easier work after with 2x100 and have faster car in first laps to make some overtakes. Then I realized that I will not be able to correct my fuel amount after (because I can't fill more then 100 in first and second pit stop
). But that was just to late; I did that just few seconds before dede started the race. When I saw 56% on the start, I knew that my all laps have to be totally clear if I don't want to see empty tank in last laps. And, of course, I failed. But, as I said, that was the funniest official race since I play TS online.
Did I said that dede was so fu**ing fast?
Congrats.Please, upload the video.
Feedback of my race from my view:
Qualified 14th which i thought was terrible for me but ok.
I practised some diffrent lines for overtaking and normal driving lines, and i found some nice lines but did not perfect a single lap to get a fast time.
Race: 72% + 86% + 100%
First few laps were tough but i had a nice start winning 3-4 places in the first 3 laps and i got into battle with i believe jan and matic and hevonen for the next 6-7 laps untill i made some slight errors and jan and matic drove away from me.
While hevonen was putting pressure from behind.
After a push by hevonen from the back at finishline right before my last 8-10% i decided to take a pit 1 lap early and hope to get in front of him enough the lap after that (as he needed to pit).
then i got annoyed by hevonen in the second stint i was driving laps of 46s with 60-80% fuel in the tank and due to the fact hevonen kept touching my car causing me to lose my speed a bit.
and it got worse as suddenly at some point he drove into me at a corner and felt like it was ok to pass me like that and i got pissed off,
due to the irritation i decided to show him if he wants rough ill give him rough the last corner before the straight at the finishline i knocked him off field caused myself to get stuck a little and took my position back as i felt it was my place to drive there.
the third stint was where we got lapped and i observed what lines dede drove and janne.(and i got hit by a reirom action from burn) and from that point i got a normal racepace again as hevonen left a gap behind.
driving laps 45.1s with a full tank.
last few laps i tried to get close enough to jan who seemed to have stamina problems but it wasnt enough and i ended up 12th
Except for hevonen and burn whom i had trouble racing ''with'' it was an awesome first race.
Maybe next race we should explain people what fairracing means and give a few examples how to overtake when to give a spot back ect. ect.
as i probably only had about 10 laps without a collison
Organizing Grade 10+ (everything went smoothly)
Track grade 9+ (Great Job Janne
)
Overall Racing 7-
Qualified 14th which i thought was terrible for me but ok.
I practised some diffrent lines for overtaking and normal driving lines, and i found some nice lines but did not perfect a single lap to get a fast time.
Race: 72% + 86% + 100%
First few laps were tough but i had a nice start winning 3-4 places in the first 3 laps and i got into battle with i believe jan and matic and hevonen for the next 6-7 laps untill i made some slight errors and jan and matic drove away from me.
While hevonen was putting pressure from behind.
After a push by hevonen from the back at finishline right before my last 8-10% i decided to take a pit 1 lap early and hope to get in front of him enough the lap after that (as he needed to pit).
then i got annoyed by hevonen in the second stint i was driving laps of 46s with 60-80% fuel in the tank and due to the fact hevonen kept touching my car causing me to lose my speed a bit.
and it got worse as suddenly at some point he drove into me at a corner and felt like it was ok to pass me like that and i got pissed off,
due to the irritation i decided to show him if he wants rough ill give him rough the last corner before the straight at the finishline i knocked him off field caused myself to get stuck a little and took my position back as i felt it was my place to drive there.
the third stint was where we got lapped and i observed what lines dede drove and janne.(and i got hit by a reirom action from burn) and from that point i got a normal racepace again as hevonen left a gap behind.
driving laps 45.1s with a full tank.
last few laps i tried to get close enough to jan who seemed to have stamina problems but it wasnt enough and i ended up 12th
Except for hevonen and burn whom i had trouble racing ''with'' it was an awesome first race.
Maybe next race we should explain people what fairracing means and give a few examples how to overtake when to give a spot back ect. ect.
as i probably only had about 10 laps without a collison
Organizing Grade 10+ (everything went smoothly)
Track grade 9+ (Great Job Janne
) Overall Racing 7-
Dont beg for things do it yourself or else you wont get anything!!
One thing causes another, I'd say. You get blocked in a corner > you drive a bad line > you crash [and slow down] > you return to racing and get knocked off-track. Anyway, let's hope next time I can use something else than a laptop to play.Tijny wrote:Stick a sock in it. I watched your first 3 laps, and the only one who was actually too rough was Pilburn; the other incidents were either just bad luck, or because you drove a slow line yourself. If you think you don't belong there, you should just qualify better in the first place.Etmil wrote:This cup am f*** rough. All the guys in the back overtook by roughing during the first laps. Well, rock on with your bad selves.. 17th is not where Etmil's supposed to finish.
Well, as for myself, I was on course for 2nd, until I forgot to pit. So f*** you all, 13th is not where Tijny is supposed to finish.
Just watch replay when you have it and see what happened :-p Ofcourse I would give way if it was my fault, like I did to others in the race. But Ir Nerd crashed, I crashed into him, you crashed into me xDWhiplash wrote:Daaaaaaamn!!! That was the best rece I have ever drove in official cups. It was so fun. Anti is a God. Sure, there was so many rough moves. I think I crashed in Pingu, and he didn't let me pass, not so sure; I have no video. Maybe he crashed in somebody accidentally too. I had so many great fights like in real F1. I think that the best was with Jan...nice inside - outside positioning to attack and defend the place.
The track was just great. Well done Janne. I found 2 good places for overtaking. 1st curve was the best for it.
And, just like Tijny, I run out of fuel... but daaaaaamn...in the fu**ing last lap, in the last few curves.
I calculated that I will need 100%, then 100% again, and then 56%. Somehow I decided to set 56% on the beginning to have easier work after with 2x100 and have faster car in first laps to make some overtakes. Then I realized that I will not be able to correct my fuel amount after (because I can't fill more then 100 in first and second pit stop
But, as I said, that was the funniest official race since I play TS online.
Did I said that dede was so fu**ing fast?
Please, upload the video.
Watching the replay is awesome btw, Mike why you say wtf wtf on the start of the race btw
?For next race we maybe should make clearer rules about what is allowed during the superpole... Because if you finish your fast lap people enter the pit from behind... To me that's not a really big deal but only filling up to 9% then drive back and then speed up for your next lap is a bit to much backwards I think, what do you guys think about this:s?
Well, there is no the other way. Anyway, it's not the problem. Ghosts can't make a hit. Otherwise, we would have to drive 2 laps for nothing and also drive it 1 of them with empty tank.
The only way is maybe turn off the fuel in quali.
The only way is maybe turn off the fuel in quali.
Last edited by Whiplash on Mon May 10, 2010 1:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Well it's really anoying to see cars going the other way... when i saw almoust everyone do it I started to do it too because it's a bit of an advantage but ofcourse it's a bad reason to do it. In the begin I filled 23% and do 3 laps then go to back of pit... Also I think the admins said no backwards at superpole start and most of peeps did it (me too ...........).Whiplash wrote:Well, there is no the other way. Anyway, it's not the problem. Ghosts can't make a hit. Otherwise, we would have to drive 1 lap for nothing and also drive it with empty tank.
Janne started it! omfgwtfbbq!Pingu wrote:For next race we maybe should make clearer rules about what is allowed during the superpole... Because if you finish your fast lap people enter the pit from behind... To me that's not a really big deal but only filling up to 9% then drive back and then speed up for your next lap is a bit to much backwards I think, what do you guys think about this:s?
Well, I don't know. My opinion about this is that enabling fuel in the superpole session has no added value (unlike with the F1 set of rules) and only causes problems such as these. Just not sure how dede feels about that.
Fuel makes superpole like 99 times more fun xD if not a 100 times! To me thenTijny wrote:Janne started it! omfgwtfbbq!Pingu wrote:For next race we maybe should make clearer rules about what is allowed during the superpole... Because if you finish your fast lap people enter the pit from behind... To me that's not a really big deal but only filling up to 9% then drive back and then speed up for your next lap is a bit to much backwards I think, what do you guys think about this:s?
Well, I don't know. My opinion about this is that enabling fuel in the superpole session has no added value (unlike with the F1 set of rules) and only causes problems such as these. Just not sure how dede feels about that.
The most important thing is to make the rules clear. I thought backwards driving wasn't allowed and therefore didn't do that at all so I couldn't do many laps with low fuel. If backwards driving is allowed then ok, it's same for everyone. If it's not, then people need to drive the fast lap with some more fuel or risk it all to one lap and drive the following one with empty tank. I don't see a problem in either way as long as everyone is aware of what is allowed and what isn't. As Tijny said, putting fuel off for the qualification isn't a bad option either.Pingu wrote:Well it's really anoying to see cars going the other way... when i saw almoust everyone do it I started to do it too because it's a bit of an advantage but ofcourse it's a bad reason to do it. In the begin I filled 23% and do 3 laps then go to back of pit... Also I think the admins said no backwards at superpole start and most of peeps did it (me too ...........).Whiplash wrote:Well, there is no the other way. Anyway, it's not the problem. Ghosts can't make a hit. Otherwise, we would have to drive 1 lap for nothing and also drive it with empty tank.
Anyway for me the qualification is mostly for practising the track and I'm used to start at the back of the row as I can't wank.
Well 18th position yesterday; I'll be very surprised if I reach top 10 in any qualification although in race I think I'm capable of taking some top 10 positions... My original idea was to have a single long session where you had to focus on all things: starting grid, finding a good and safe line, planning the strategy. I thought I was clear about rules ("no backwards driving" -> entering pits from wrong direction is still backwards driving), but I don't feel like penalizing half of the players because they followed a bad example. I appreciate those who respected the rule (if there is any), though.Tijny wrote:My opinion about this is that enabling fuel in the superpole session has no added value (unlike with the F1 set of rules) and only causes problems such as these. Just not sure how dede feels about that.
However, I think we need to change the superpole rules.. I will communicate the changes later.
Now to my comments:
Superpole
I used this session to drive as fast as possible. I was a bit disappointed when I saw Janne going backwards into pits, but I decided to drive normal in order to avoid complaints later. Everything went alright, but I didn't find any time to calculate the fuel strategy for the race. My final laptime was quite good, but I was surprised not to see two or three players with faster laptime than me (especially those who joined pits from exit).
Race
I decided to start with a "safe" 80% fuel (not that I calculated it, it sounded like an average amount). The beginning of the race was slow as usual. Luckily Tijny had full tank that made his car as fast as myself. After the first few laps, I found a good pace and I ran away until Janne overtook Tijny. From that point, I started losing few tenths per lap without panicking: I focused on driving constant laptimes and safe lines. Probably this is what I was lacking in past years: there is no need to worry when opponents are behind; opponent needs to be put under pressure by making his comeback harder and longer; don't overdrive to make the gap bigger, just keep it under control.
Back to the story, Janne entered pits one lap earlier than me, so I managed to put a bit of margin between our cars. I refueled 94% which seemed to be the correct amount for splitting remaining laps.
Tijny stopped few laps later and he luckily exit the pitlane in front of Janne. This saved me once again from Janne's comeback. The second stint was quite solid by me, so I entered pits with a good margin on Tijny.
Right after the pit, I tried to push the car to the limit in order to keep as much gap as possible on Tijny, but it wasn't needed: Tijny was stuck in the middle of the track with empty fuel tank.
Third stint was nearly perfect again. Great speed, no mistakes, good fuel strategy except for the inappropriate startfuel.. deserved victory