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Post by dede » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:32 pm

shyguy1001 wrote:A suggestion - maybe mod all the TSB/TSE tracks to have the grid modeled at Eisenstadt? This would avoid all the really annoying rough racing at the start.
The problem you described is prolly because of the starting grid indeed (that's why we are using different starting grid). It is very easy to push people braking too early / get pushed by people who brake too late. Good players can understand when to brake in order to avoid these problems, in most cases, but it's no use if other players aren't driving safe as well (e.g. I'm normally losing 3-4 positions at first curve in GPOR server, if I start from front rows.

Anyway, I introduced a "sliding" entry list, so that unactive people lose their spots if they don't show up for at least half of the races. So basically, after next race, players who joined 0 races out of 2 will be removed from top20 in order to give a guaranteed spot to active players out of top20. Those who are out of top20 can show up as spectators before qualify. In case server is full, their presence will be counted anyway.

Everything is available at this topic's first post.

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Post by Lexx » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:54 pm

Lag killed me during the race.
Qualed 6th, which I was quite happy with even I drove for 2 seconds, and warped in the forest. Giving me place 15. Then the turn and was 17th.

Then I tried my best, climbed up someld places when lag ruined it all...

Couldn't continue - So I thought it would be best to park my car, otherwise I probably ruined other people's races...

I hope next race will go better for me!

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Post by Pingu » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:26 am

dede wrote:
Pingu wrote:Anyway can i still sign up?
Ok, you are on entry list now, on number 27. It means that you can join only when quali are about to start (you can spectate before) and only if top26 doesn't show up.
Ok thanks, I have to be lucky for 7 people not to show up :o

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Post by shyguy1001 » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:19 pm

I've being improving by watching mike race xD

Hoping to be at least +1 lap, if not close to the lead lap next race :D

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Post by Mouse » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:33 pm

shyguy1001 wrote:I've being improving by watching mike race xD

Hoping to be at least +1 lap, if not close to the lead lap next race :D
I'm hoping for the same (not lapped). Just remember to be smooth, don't go for [personal] record laps every time. Minimize your simple mistakes.

That's advice for you, and myself also. :P
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Post by Jurgen-NL » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:55 am

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:lol:
Dont beg for things do it yourself or else you wont get anything!!

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Post by Tijny » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:01 am

Nah, we're using the Moto GP points system so it actually matters whether you're 9th or 15th.

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Post by Whiplash » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:56 am

Another mistake is matic's position I think. He is good in gpor.

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Post by Jurgen-NL » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:07 pm

Tijny wrote:Nah, we're using the Moto GP points system so it actually matters whether you're 9th or 15th.
how is that system then?
Dont beg for things do it yourself or else you wont get anything!!

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Post by Pingu » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:29 pm

Jurgen-NL wrote:
Tijny wrote:Nah, we're using the Moto GP points system so it actually matters whether you're 9th or 15th.
how is that system then?
Lol, ever seen it on Television.. it starts at 20 points and so on ;). Btw google is your friend

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Post by Mouse » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:43 pm

Pingu wrote:
Jurgen-NL wrote:
Tijny wrote:Nah, we're using the Moto GP points system so it actually matters whether you're 9th or 15th.
how is that system then?
Lol, ever seen it on Television.. it starts at 20 points and so on ;). Btw google is your friend
Actually:

25 20 16 13 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 (top 15 get points).

Nicer this way I agree. There can be battles in all spots in the league, not just for the top-half drivers.
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Post by Whiplash » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:12 pm

Mouse wrote:
Pingu wrote:
Jurgen-NL wrote: how is that system then?
Lol, ever seen it on Television.. it starts at 20 points and so on ;). Btw google is your friend
Actually:

25 20 16 13 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 (top 15 get points).

Nicer this way I agree. There can be battles in all spots in the league, not just for the top-half drivers.

Actually:
20 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 is the best I think :wink:

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Post by Tijny » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:36 pm

Whiplash wrote:
Mouse wrote: Actually:

25 20 16 13 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 (top 15 get points).

Nicer this way I agree. There can be battles in all spots in the league, not just for the top-half drivers.

Actually:
20 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 is the best I think :wink:
So basically you're correcting his facts with your own opinion? :P

The system Mouse posted is the one we'll be using. It's common, many drivers get points, and there's still a significant difference between a victory and, say, a 5th place (as it should be).

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Post by Whiplash » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:25 pm

No, I'm not correcting anything. I just said that point sistem I mention is much fair then 10 8 6... and 25 20 16... because 9 and 20 is the same just like 16 and 20 is the same in your point sistem now. Difference between 1st, 2nd and 3rd player could be smaller too.

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Post by Tijny » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:59 pm

That's where you and I differ. Finishing top 15 at least once should be possible for pretty much anyone, while top 8 is a whole different story. About the top places, beating someone for 3rd place is a lot harder than beating someone for, say, 9th, and therefore should be rewarded with a bigger gain on your opponent. Also, this way it's much easier to make up for lost points after having to miss a race.

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Post by Whiplash » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:00 pm

Tijny wrote:Also, this way it's much easier to make up for lost points after having to miss a race.
Well, that was my secret plan: watching you sufering on 2nd or worst place finally. :D

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Post by Lanz » Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:30 pm

Hello!! I would participate, sign me pls in!

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Post by XLechnaX » Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:38 pm

Hi All!
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Post by dede » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:32 pm

XLechnaX wrote:Hi All!
Pls sign me in , greets XLechnaX
Sorry, I believe you got banned/warned multiple times in GPOR racing server in the past, so you either don't understand english or you don't know how to play with fairplay rules. This kind of players aren't welcome in the league.

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Post by Mouse » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:31 pm

My comments on the Alcerring GP:

Did a poor qualifying lap, and started 12th. Probably could have been a few spots up, but i wanted a lot of fuel for the race.

It was the roughest start to any race I have ever done. That said, no one was driving rough... but fast drivers with heavy cars mixed with slower drivers with light cars caused everyone to bunch up. A few laps in I got bumped from behind into a barrier, happened going into the fast left-right on the right side of the track (or screen). A racing incident, could have been avoided by me though. Ended up 19th.... (FUUUU&*^&*&^).

After that, it was lapping to my first pit stop after 19 laps. Did that and i was 14th when I came out. Then I began to pass guys with 2 stop strategies... Matic, Storm, Keppana, then Hangman was just in front. After a few laps I passed him, but then began to lose composure and he took the spot back with 2 laps remaining. Going into the last lap, I made a mistake going into the first turns and he pulled away. 10th.

I'm not so happy with 10th. With a cleaner start to the race, I should have been battling with Larppa and Etmil. I think I should have finished 7th in this race. :)
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Post by shyguy1001 » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:39 pm

Server was so much shittyer than last time, I was up to 9th around lap 6-8, then the lag started and just got worse and worse as the race went on. Im buying a new PC soon so hopefully that should fix everything... So pissed tho, I reckon I could of finished on the lead lap Q____Q

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Post by Tijny » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:46 pm

Starting Grid:
1. Nw.- | Pablinho* (37.614 - 83%)
2. ION|Larppa (37.728 - 76%)
3. [+] Tijny (37.745 - 91%)
4. [+] dede (37.761 - 91%)
5. ION|ziossi (37.772 - 41%)
6. Philippe (37.793 - 64%)
7. [GER]Mike Nike (37.930 - 91%)
8. [fS]Janne (37.957 - 87%)
9. [ : ] Etmil (37.972 - 70%)
10. [TDi] Storm (38.122 - 61%)
11. lanz (38.122 - 7%)
12. Mouse (38.155 - 84%)
13. [FIN] Keppana (38.158 - 77%)
14. kkyborg (38.265 - 77%)
15. Pingu (38.722 - 84%)
16. Shyguy1001 (38.905 - 73%)
17. Hangman (39.177 - 89%)
18. Matic (39.285 - 86%)
19. [iR] lux (no laptime - 100%)

Race Results:
1. [+] Tijny 24:57.025
2. [+] dede +2.027
3. [GER]Mike Nike +22.043
4. [fS]Janne +28.000
5. Nw.- | Pablinho* +29.141
6. Badeend +37.389
7. [ : ] Etmil +1 lap
8. ION|Larppa +1 lap
9. Hangman +1 lap
10. Mouse +1 lap
11. [FIN] Keppana +1 lap
12. Matic +1 lap
13. Pingu +1 lap
14. [TDi] Storm +1 lap
15. Philippe +2 laps
16. [iR] lux +2 laps
17. Shyguy1001 +2 laps
18. ION|ziossi +2 laps
19. lanz +4 laps
20. kkyborg +5 laps

Cup Standings:
1. [+] Tijny 50
2. [+] dede 40
3. [GER]Mike Nike 29
4. Badeend 26
5. [fS]Janne 24
6. [ : ] Etmil 18
7. Mouse 16
8. ION|Larppa 15
9. Hangman 13
9. [FIN] Keppana 13
11. Nw.- | Pablinho* 11
12. Matic 7
13. kkyborg 5
14. [iR] lux 4
15. Pingu 3
16. [TDi] Storm 2
16. Shyguy1001 2
18. Philippe 1
18. ION|ziossi 1

(I hope I didn't forget anyone in the cup standings)

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Post by Whiplash » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:53 pm

Videos please. :wink:

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Post by dede » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:08 pm

My comments:

I didn't manage to find a safe fast line during practice, so I think that my race was a bit compromised. Qualify lap was good, but it was few hundredths slower than Tijny. I wondered if to continue attacking the pole position, but then I decided to stop because that could've taken 3-4 more laps in order to get 1 clean lap again.

I qualified 4th, right behind Tijny. My kers system seemed to work better than his (:P), but I didn't manage to get close enough in first curve. I seemed to have a good gap on drivers behind, but then in next straight zionssi catched me thanks his empty tank. I kept inner line in next curve, but then he came out faster in next straight. I decided to keep inner line again, but he hit my car from the outside. I lost quite a lot of time there, and people behind catched/passed me too. Luckily I managed to get positions back and Mike Nike gave room nicely.
Three seconds behind Tijny at that point were quite bad. I had to push to the limit, but it took a while before I found a fast line. I started to gain something back, but I didn't have any constancy in laptimes, so the gap remained about the same. During last laps of first stint I finally found some constancy and pace, but I had some troubles with Storm: after lapping him, I made a mistake and he passed again. He gave way nicely for a second time, and I made another mistake. At that point I had 7% fuel remaining and I was right next to the pitlane entry. I decided to stop right in that lap in order to get rid of Storm (or more likely "to reset my brain"). That naturally was a hard decision, because then Tijny had two laps with low fuel more than me. I started pushing really hard, hoping for some mistakes by him, but after his pit the gap was about the same as two laps before. This made me try harder, because apparently I was driving faster than him in those moments. He didn't make any serious mistakes and he kept a good pace in last stint, though, so I couldn't really catch him at all.
Fuel tactic seemed to be perfect (2% extra fuel at finishline), but it's funny to know that I decided to take a lower amount - and maybe also a bit random amount (since I stopped two laps before predictions).

Anyway, I should really try something different in next races. I can't lose because of battles in the first laps.

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Post by Pingu » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:38 pm

It was a good race. the first copple laps were sick for the drivers in the field behind. I was 2 secs in front of the group until i crashed and the group "sucked" me up. Luckily i could get away from the group again within 2 laps but it was very tricky. Without my mistakes i coulda get like 2 points more :wink:

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