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Post by Whiplash » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:27 pm

dede wrote:Ok, so far just 30 players signed up for the league, so we basically need a good way of kicking out 10 of them from the race. Sorting players basing on entry list is unfair, since the list filled up too quickly. Sorting players basing on previous cups is also unfair, since new drivers would have no chances to join.

The solution could actually be to release tracks for Weekly Wank and then use that ranking to establish the entry list. This would actually be a very big change, since training could be the most important part of the tournament - especially for slower drivers.

So, here's how the cup would work:

Cup Format
Entry List: based on Weekly Wank results - top 20 players will have a spot reserved for the race
Warm Up: 5 minutes, fuel on, ghost off
Qualify: max 8/10 laps, fuel on
Race: 25 minutes, fuel remaining after qualify will be startfuel

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7 teams, 4/5 players each. Players will be split in 4 categories, teams will be composed of 1 player from each category (max 2 from lowest category). Top 2/3 players of each team will score points for team standings.


Let me know what you think ;)
The idea is great. You made possibility for all players to join the cup, and that's the best improvement. Also, that's claver move for making more activity online. But you just need to think about possible cheaters. For example: Tijny could ask Reirom to drive with his nick, and then Reirom could make that Tijny join the race by bitchy cheating. I can't find the way to stop that.
Also, the part that I didn't understand well is making 7 teams with 20 players. How is that possible? 20:7=2,8571429 :) Or maybe you think that all 30+ players can make their teams and fight for their spots in the race by weekly wanking?

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Post by dede » Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:55 pm

Whiplash wrote:Tijny could ask Reirom to drive with his nick, and then Reirom could make that Tijny join the race by bitchy cheating.
I see a way to avoid that. We ban Tijny and Reirom right now! Ehehe.. anyway, IP's are available on server logs if needed. Cheating could be possible for people from the same country, but I believe that nobody would risk to be excluded from the cup just to help a friend to qualify.

Whiplash wrote:Or maybe you think that all 30+ players can make their teams and fight for their spots in the race by weekly wanking?
All players who signed up in the league will be able to join a team. 30 players -> 5teams x 4players + 2teams x 5players.

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Post by misterpom » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:05 pm

My favorite feature of the F1 Season is the fact the tracks are unreleased. You never know what's coming. The surprise factor makes it very exciting. It's like opening a present. The player's ability to memorize the track plays a very important role also, not just the speed. This is something I think is very good.

There are many players indeed, so I think Dede's solution is only fair. We want the best. If you're not part of the best, you need to practice more. I didn't have a hard time to place myself in the top 20 (except on the rainy races). Most of the time I was on the top 10. So it's okay with me. I hope I do it.

The problem with this is that Reirom AM probably not going to make it. :lol:

Also, I'm afraid a faster player could use 2 nicknames to help his slower friend. I'm sure there are ways to prevent that by banning both but anyway, it could happen and spoil the whole fairness of it if we don't pay attention.

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Post by Pingu » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:21 pm

GR8Arjen wrote:Wow, this rocks!

Using the Weekly wank results to get a startingticket for a race, is a great idea! 8)

It will make that one even more populair and the competition will get stronger.

Test sessions/free practice won't be needed anymore, which makes the event shorter in time, so thats makes planning much easier for all players.

Teams could be a fun addition to if the best drivers would like to manage them as suggested earlier.

This is gonna be sweet! :)
Please to get it just straight for all. Dede you meant a reserved spot right?

If you are top 20 you get a reserved spot. But if you show up or are to late and warm up already started, other players get the spot right??

Also @ Jaykoq.. I think and really hope it will be just one track.... 8 laps every time and track repeated. Woudn't make sense to do more right? Since priority will always be at the next cup track

@ Misterpom, yeah :( I always had the feeling this was my advantage... this way i could always beat Lux... Lanz etc, while they are normally faster. But if we only had normal warm ups + qualify i was mostly always best of the rest every race. Etc 4-5 spot alot
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Post by Whiplash » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:24 pm

dede wrote:
Whiplash wrote:Tijny could ask Reirom to drive with his nick, and then Reirom could make that Tijny join the race by bitchy cheating.
I see a way to avoid that. We ban Tijny and Reirom right now! Ehehe.. anyway, IP's are available on server logs if needed. Cheating could be possible for people from the same country, but I believe that nobody would risk to be excluded from the cup just to help a friend to qualify.

Whiplash wrote:Or maybe you think that all 30+ players can make their teams and fight for their spots in the race by weekly wanking?
All players who signed up in the league will be able to join a team. 30 players -> 5teams x 4players + 2teams x 5players.
All perfect. For any case, players from the same country should play for different teams. That will still not totally help, but could be little better.
Most of players have fixed IP, so it will help too. So T will have to make a little trip to Brazil if he want give a hand for his very best friend.

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Post by dede » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:37 pm

Pingu wrote:Dede you meant a reserved spot right?

If you are top 20 you get a reserved spot. But if you show up or are to late and warm up already started, other players get the spot right??
Yeah reserved spot. If players with reserved spot don't show up in time, they are out. I'd say that showing up before qualify is allowed. No player changes after qualify.

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Post by Jaykoq » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:46 pm

Pingu wrote: Also @ Jaykoq.. I think and really hope it will be just one track.... 8 laps every time and track repeated. Woudn't make sense to do more right? Since priority will always be at the next cup track
I thougth that Weekly Wank will be the same like this week, only one of that three tracks will be F1 track for championship (random one). :/

But ok, all options are fine with me, all tracks are relativly new to me anyways xD
I can do +1.3s to +2s, judging on these few days playing Weekly Wank.
I'm a moron \o/

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Post by misterpom » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:56 pm

Dede chose 3 tracks for the next Weekly Wank. Which of these is going to count for the top 20 spots? Is there going to be a new one?

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Post by reirom » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:30 am

i wil be in 20 spot you guys am understimating me..

see tsb barcelona i will be top 10 easy

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Post by reirom » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:47 am

UHUHUHUH 3 IN TSB AUHUHUHA

NEAR DEDE



LANZ 2 S BEHING

I TOLD YOU AUHUHAA

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Post by Mouse » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:51 am

For this "weekly wank pre-qualifying," are we going to get some real-time stats somewhere?
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Post by misterpom » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:08 am

I raced a bit on the server. I was 1st in Barcelona, 2nd in Xianlao and 999th in Kabaqa. It was hard for me to make a good lap. I'm not comfortable at all with this car. I thought I was but I was wrong.

It's too slippery in the rain. I know a handful of people will point out that since it's in the rain it's supposed to be slippery. I accept that if it was only in the close curves but sometimes in a very open curve you just turn the car a bit and it's enough to make it slip like crazy and make that annoying braking sounds. That's not rain, that's oil or something like that hahaha.

This doesn't seem to bother other players, though. They probably have a technique to get around it, something I'm not familiar with. I tried using brakes, not using brakes, turning a lot, turning a little. I guess I just suck at rainy races. It's just too "antislider" for me.

The rest was okay. Still in Xianlao, I used to be able to make the first 2 curves without braking with the last car and now I can't. It's very hard to turn it.

I hope it's just me having to practice more. Still it's frustrating. LOL.

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Post by dede » Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:37 am

My technique in rain is to brake before starting the curve and then accelerate through the curve (unless it's a slow one). Use kerbs only if you need more steering in slow curves, otherwise avoid them if you can. Braking during the curve will probably make your car slide, which makes you lose a lot of time.

About the first test race, entry list will be determined basing on Xianlao Weekly Wank results.

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Post by Pingu » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:09 am

New track record for Pingu :lol: :lol: :lol: I think we are finished :wink:

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Post by Whiplash » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:29 pm

Man, why 3 tracks again? :? Xianlao would be enough. It's wasting a time driving those other two tracks.

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Post by Jan » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:43 pm

Whiplash wrote:Man, why 3 tracks again? :? Xianlao would be enough. It's wasting a time driving those other two tracks.
I agree. At least when the cup really begins, in my opinion it'd be better if only the track where the next race is held would be included in the Weekly Wank. Probably this is my opinion because I'm not a big fan of wanking. Because of this qualification I have enthusiasm to wank on the race track though. ;)

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Post by reirom » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:46 pm

About the first test race, entry list will be determined basing on Xianlao Weekly Wank results.


why? barcelona tsb.. still i will spot in xianlao

why not average of all 3 tracks?

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Post by dede » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:44 pm

Weekly Wanking will continue for 2 weeks like it is now: 3 tracks (1 of them is quali for test races). When the cup really begins, Weekly Wank server will have only 1 track. It won't be a Weekly Wank competition though, just a quali server for the race (top players aren't forced to drive their best laptimes).

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Post by reirom » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:41 pm

so why you choose xaio track?


tsb barcelona.. dede..

still i am in top 20 in all..

PUT THE 3 TRACKS AND MADE AVERAGE

EXAMPLE

reirom top 8 barcelona top 14 xiao top 18 wet

my average is 13,3

is more accurate.

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Post by reirom » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:45 pm

ok if dede decide i agree. i still think the average of 3 tracks is more good..

some guys general is kiling in time and not signed up. ahha good..

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Post by Tijny » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:48 pm

reirom wrote:so why you choose xaio track?
Quite simple, Xianlao will be the race track next sunday.

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Post by Jurgen-NL » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:40 pm

reirom wrote:ok if dede decide i agree. i still think the average of 3 tracks is more good..

some guys general is kiling in time and not signed up. ahha good..
it doesnt matter if they didnt sign, if they didnt sign up they wont be allowed to play even if they are 7th or in top 20 on the weekly wank server.
Dont beg for things do it yourself or else you wont get anything!!

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Post by Jaykoq » Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:34 pm

Listen ... my idea was that you keep Weekly Wank how it is (three tracks, one car). There is no reason to modify a cup that much just because another similar cup.

But one of these three tracks is the one that will be in cup.

And noone knows what track until, let's say, Friday. Then you, by using some random.org site, or just somehow :roll: choose track for cup.
Besides, that's the way you can "random" the weather conditions. Maybe always will be rain, maybe 2 times during a cup.

Top20 (those who sign-in for F1 cup) on "the chosen one" track (or reirom's idea or making average of three tracks) for qualifying laps, and race.

And I'm still interesed how the points are going :roll:
I'm a moron \o/

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Post by Tijny » Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:44 pm

Jaykoq wrote:Listen ... my idea was that you keep Weekly Wank how it is (three tracks, one car). There is no reason to modify a cup that much just because another similar cup.

But one of these three tracks is the one that will be in cup.

And noone knows what track until, let's say, Friday. Then you, by using some random.org site, or just somehow :roll: choose track for cup.
Besides, that's the way you can "random" the weather conditions. Maybe always will be rain, maybe 2 times during a cup.
So does that mean I'd have to make 3 tracks for every week? :D

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Post by reirom » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:48 pm

TOP 20 WITH 3 PLAYERS AHEAD OF ME OUT OF LEAGUE..

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