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Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:55 pm

Afinfas wrote:
Etmil wrote:Lanz, suggestion:

the pit-lane speed limiter is a bit too sudden, I think. could it be changed to something more similar to F1? (smooth slowdown)
Yeah, i also had troubles with that setting! On last race i hit 2 times the entrance of the pit cause it drastically reduces the speed and i was already turning....should be more progressive. Or at least not reduce the speed while passing the barriers of the entrance!!

but thats the only pit entry which i find a bit tricky, try it a few times and you wont have problems anymore!

Hevonen · Post by **Hevonen** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:14 pm

30.973 in the first try, that's like the best I have time to practice this week.. maybe in the weekend I have bit more time. Last race was a disaster thanks to my strategy but now I know what to do and luckily it was just a test race.

Afinfas · Post by **Afinfas** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:09 pm

Ok, for who is interested i just made some AI lines for our next test race! Makes more fun to have some cars on track.

It has quite some fast laps with the fastest one being: 30.274s

Enjoy:

here:http://afonsoribeiro.DE/UPLOADserver/PT ... rg.lap.new

ps: I sound stupid saying this but...maybe theres some persons who dont know this so, just download this file and place it on the ai folder inside the game. Now you will have some COM cars racing with you!

Cheers!

EDIT: Forgot to say that the laps are optimized to race without fuel. So dont put the settings like we play it. I only have used /fuel 0 and /set maxenergy 50000
So if you race with our settings, all cars will be faster then you cause you will have full tank 100%
Actually is something i dont really like..that we start with 100% fuel!

Pingu · Post by **Pingu** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:08 pm

LoL no AIs during race pls, they would get DSQ anyway! They wont pit!

Mrtn · Post by **Mrtn** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:11 pm

Martin...the guy who drives normally very aggressive, fast pace but agressive

Fast & agressive.... wait a minute...thats Schumacher

)))
Thanks for the compliment Afinfas

And Lanz, I would like to change my team to Merc, as a tribute to Schuey! Thanks.

Afinfas · Post by **Afinfas** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:20 pm

Pingu wrote:LoL no AIs during race pls, they would get DSQ anyway! They wont pit!

Mrtn wrote:And Lanz, I would like to change my team to Merc, as a tribute to Schuey! Thanks.

No, no, no.... not on the real race Pingu! Cmon!

What i mean is if someone wants to practice a bit the track, can do it already with some cars on track, FAST ones as i set good laps, the fastest ones till now cause no one has already reported some faster ones!

@Mrtn Yeah,i chose Mercedes mainly cause of that actually...also cause i dont really like Audi and BMW

Mercedes is looking strong team...willing to win the constructors title even if the main race winner is on Audi...yeah DEDE!

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:21 pm

Mrtn wrote:
Martin...the guy who drives normally very aggressive, fast pace but agressive
Fast & agressive.... wait a minute...thats Schumacher )))
Thanks for the compliment Afinfas

And Lanz, I would like to change my team to Merc, as a tribute to Schuey! Thanks.

mang! having Mrtn in the Team was sure an advantage!

anyway BMW definitely needs some Drivers! someone knows how to contact siLciR or Janne!?

anyway we kick asses with 5 cars only if needed!

power79 · Post by **power79** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:48 am

Afinfas wrote: And in response to that post Lanz, i leave here my new record on this track!

Lady and gentleman's...im proud to present a record of: 30.161s

http://afonsoribeiro.de/UPLOADserver/Al ... elberg.tsr

Lap 2/20

Anyone has times so i can compare my pace with others? This was a pretty good lap but...im sure its possible to go under 30s

Hi. I watched your video because im like 1sec slower and need to get faster for the upcoming race so that I don't get lapped too many times.

There seemed to be some corner cuts through the grass. I would like Lanz to confirm that this is ok lap for quali/race too. I have been little more careful with my laps.

Afinfas · Post by **Afinfas** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:40 am

power79 wrote: Hi. I watched your video because im like 1sec slower and need to get faster for the upcoming race so that I don't get lapped too many times.

There seemed to be some corner cuts through the grass. I would like Lanz to confirm that this is ok lap for quali/race too. I have been little more careful with my laps.

Yeah...good that you raise that question cause i have the same!

I indeed cut a bit 2 turns. The first one after the big straight and the one right after. Its not a big cut actually but i also would like to have LANZ opinion about it...or anyone actually!
Not that im getting used to drive like this and then its not allowed on the race!

BTW, i just realized that i will miss at least 2 official races and one of them is on this track (that i seem to be fast)!!

I think they are on 10.3 and on 24.3 Sad for that!

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:07 am

Afinfas wrote:
power79 wrote: Hi. I watched your video because im like 1sec slower and need to get faster for the upcoming race so that I don't get lapped too many times.

There seemed to be some corner cuts through the grass. I would like Lanz to confirm that this is ok lap for quali/race too. I have been little more careful with my laps.
Yeah...good that you raise that question cause i have the same! I indeed cut a bit 2 turns. The first one after the big straight and the one right after. Its not a big cut actually but i also would like to have LANZ opinion about it...or anyone actually!
Not that im getting used to drive like this and then its not allowed on the race!

BTW, i just realized that i will miss at least 2 official races and one of them is on this track (that i seem to be fast)!! I think they are on 10.3 and on 24.3 Sad for that!

missing 1 race ain't a problem cos there is 1 drop! but 2, thats a bit shitty!

about the cuts, thats a bit a problem in TS! specially in quali where damage is turned off! i didn't wanted to add a super slow down tarmac and also not a wall really close to the track! people wouldn't like it! cutting the inside of the corner is ok but not on the outside! the race control will likely punish that! and you have to keep in mind that cutting cost you tires in race! and a .1 is doable without cuts!

Afinfas · Post by **Afinfas** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:02 am

So for what i understood, its not allowed to cut on the Q cause damage is off but allowed on Race cause damage is on? Is that it???

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:29 am

Afinfas wrote:So for what i understood, its not allowed to cut on the Q cause damage is off but allowed on Race cause damage is on? Is that it???

cutting is tolerated but not welcome in race and quali if it didn't happen in every lap! you can't punish people for cutting once cos you don't get the same line every time!
if you follow those rules you won't get a problem with the Race Control:

6.1. respect the limits of the Track

6.4. the racing should take place between the 2 white lines

Post by **dede** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:11 pm

Lanz wrote:cutting is tolerated but not welcome in race and quali if it didn't happen in every lap! you can't punish people for cutting once cos you don't get the same line every time!

In my opinion you need to be clear about qualify. Either allow it or punish it, otherwise good players will cut when a perfect lap is coming, and drive shitty laps between white lines ("it did not happen every lap so it's fair"!).

Afinfas · Post by **Afinfas** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:39 pm

Yeah Lanz...
im sorry for opening this discussion but.... i also think it needs a clear definition otherwise it will be unfair for some guys.
Also i would like to mention that the KERBS, used by almost everyone to make the turns, is located outside the white lines, so in theory, by the rules, you´re not allowed to use the KERBS to approach turns cause it will be considered cutting!!
We kind also have this discussion on NSGP and the solution was to increase the tires penalty when you go to grass/gravel. Like this you can yeah, make a fast lap but you will have to pit earlier due to tire wear so, its a matter of decision of the driver. You cant though make a take over cutting a turn. Race Control penalizes that!

So, clear definition needed. As DEDE mentioned and well, that was the first thought that came to my mind. "I see if its a good lap and use that one to cut it and cause its not on a regular basis it will not be penalized!" But i will start on front places and that will give right away an advantage towards the others.

Pingu · Post by **Pingu** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:09 pm

Afinfas wrote:Ok, for who is interested i just made some AI lines for our next test race! Makes more fun to have some cars on track.

It has quite some fast laps with the fastest one being: 30.274s

Enjoy:

here:http://afonsoribeiro.DE/UPLOADserver/PT ... rg.lap.new

ps: I sound stupid saying this but...maybe theres some persons who dont know this so, just download this file and place it on the ai folder inside the game. Now you will have some COM cars racing with you!

Cheers!

EDIT: Forgot to say that the laps are optimized to race without fuel. So dont put the settings like we play it. I only have used /fuel 0 and /set maxenergy 50000
So if you race with our settings, all cars will be faster then you cause you will have full tank 100%
Actually is something i dont really like..that we start with 100% fuel!

I dont understand how to add your AI lines? Arent AI lines .gz files?

Afinfas · Post by **Afinfas** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:47 pm

Pingu wrote:I dont understand how to add your AI lines? Arent AI lines .gz files?

Hmmm....i thought like that as well but when i created the AI lines, the only file that was created was that one. I tried removing it from the folder and run the game and i had no COM cars, then i add the file back and the cars showed up so, i assumed that it was only this file! But i might be wrong!

I just had another look into the folder and i confirm, that is the only file related to this track i have, so it must be it! Did you tried to put it on the ai folder and run the game?

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:59 pm

Afinfas wrote:Yeah Lanz...
im sorry for opening this discussion but.... i also think it needs a clear definition otherwise it will be unfair for some guys.
Also i would like to mention that the KERBS, used by almost everyone to make the turns, is located outside the white lines, so in theory, by the rules, you´re not allowed to use the KERBS to approach turns cause it will be considered cutting!!

ok! i didn't thought that such a question would come up!

Kerbs totally belong to the Track and therefore its requested to use them!

About cutting in Quali: if a clarification is needed, only 1 solution to solve this problem is possible:

No cutting allowed in Qualification

EDIT:

2.7. cutting corners to get faster Lap Times is forbidden and will be punished

6.4. the racing should take place between the 2 white lines, including Kerbs

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:07 pm

since not everybody knows or keep asking whats the DTM check out the 2012 Season Highlights! Really awesome footage!

Afinfas · Post by **Afinfas** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:52 pm

WTF!!!!!!

Can you guys tell me if theres something wrong here??
I had again this stupid problem. I was hosting a server and racing on it with no problem. A guy joined and i restarted so we could race together. He downloaded the tracks/car and we are ready to go! I press play and track loads till the end. Then it comes back to the menu and ask me if i want to force start! I didnt do anything and it started by itself. We both went to track, lights ON, start! I go and he stays on grid stopped! I write to him on chat explaining that and he says he´s driving and my car is stopped on the grid and says: Disconnected!??
Ok, nothing of this is new to you guys but, please check it, maybe im doing something wrong:

Settings on game:

And Settings on my Router:

Some help would be appreciated! Its going on my nerves a lot. DEDE last time said that it seems that i dont have ports open to host....

You see on router that i do have!!!

And yeah...my LAN IP is correct, its 192.168.1.24 It works for NSGP with ports 7776-7778 as you can see on picture

power79 · Post by **power79** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:10 am

Based on TS manual I would say that problem is with UDP connection. Maybe your firewall only lets TCP pass even if router forwards ports correctly?
Does NSGP use TCP+UDP or just TCP?

Post by **dede** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:03 am

power79 wrote:Based on TS manual I would say that problem is with UDP connection. Maybe your firewall only lets TCP pass even if router forwards ports correctly?
Does NSGP use TCP+UDP or just TCP?

Exactly. Try turning all firewall (router and pc) off. Check windows firewall too!

Hevonen · Post by **Hevonen** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:52 pm

30.2 : )

Afinfas · Post by **Afinfas** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:49 pm

Nice lap 30.2.

You guys always write without milliseconds as well. Its very different to have 30.299 then 30.200!

About ports...NSGP i think it used both, not 100% sure though. I just changed my router settings to 2 individual registries. One for UDP and other for TCP. Needs testing now...

I saw my router only supports 8 forwarded ports!

So maybe it wasnt accepting one of them (UDP) cause i had full list... as i said, needs testing!

Will let you know if it works but thanks for the help!

Very excited for tomorrows race, even if its just a test. I have the feeling i can fight for a podium there, if not for the win!!!!?

Hevonen · Post by **Hevonen** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:57 am

That's why I said 30.2 ; )
Anyway my new pb is 30.243..
Our internet is not working at the moment so I hope it gets fixed by evening :/

Pingu · Post by **Pingu** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:58 am

Someone practiced alot