Puschtras Cup Test Race

misterpom · Post by **misterpom** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:54 pm

I watched the replay. It seemed a lot of fun but not as much as F1 Season, for some reason. Maybe the no fuel factor makes it harder to pass people by or something. I didn't play, so I don't know how it feels. It was just my impression. Still, it's always great to race against people on F1. I think that unreleased tracks will make it very entertaining.

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:15 pm

overtaking was hard yeah but that was so because i fighted against strong people on an unreleased track! everbody knew the track very good! its not easier to overtake in F1 league if the situation is the same! i kinda miss the fuel too! i like when the race get´s some strategy! but the racing is very good even without fuel!
its hard to introduce fuel for 2 race! already no idea how to do that!

Jaykoq · Post by **Jaykoq** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:27 pm

Deffinitly chaos on the start of 2nd race

Some of the players were on sand, and trying to come back. Dede, Janne and fast ones from behind, trying to overtake the slow ones (me, for example). I'm trying to be fair, and not to touch someone.
Crazy

shyguy1001 · Post by **shyguy1001** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:34 pm

Lanz wrote:overtaking was hard yeah but that was so because i fighted against strong people on an unreleased track! everbody knew the track very good! its not easier to overtake in F1 league if the situation is the same! i kinda miss the fuel too! i like when the race get´s some strategy! but the racing is very good even without fuel!
its hard to introduce fuel for 2 race! already no idea how to do that!

Have a massive fuel slowdown I guess, make it so a full tank could last the whole way but perhaps since it will be unreleased tracks it will be an extra element for drivers having to guesstimate how much fuel will be needed for whole race.. could make for some exciting finishes if a lot of guys ran out on the final lap

And maybe it could be made so that 1 stopper is just about possible due to really high fuel slowdown..

Post by **dede** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:39 pm

Random idea.. Reverse order and more addictional fuel for people behind.. Meaning slower cars for faster people..

lux2 · Post by **lux2** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:03 pm

Dede, are you talking to use fuel as a ballast?
Is it possible to have fuel without consumption?
It's a nice idea. A ballast for the top players in the 1st manche or, maybe better, to the top players in the championship standing.

This sounds good.

I don't like the idea to have again fuel strategies like in F1 league.
Only simple races flag to flag.

Jurgen-NL · Post by **Jurgen-NL** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:19 pm

you all talk about unreleased tracks but Versell (i know it was a test) was released allready your giving some players the negative information such as Xzeal and schumacher maybe

just my 2 cents into the topic

@lux sure i just dont know how many seconds it can take

lol @ futuristic le mans ideas if the tank can hold 84000 seconds XD 24 hours behind the pc

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:20 pm

i like the idea about the ballast(weight)! i already has some thoughts about that after watching DTM! is it possible to set a fixed damage or fuel setup?

edit: yeah maybe i coulda say that track is already released!

speccially shumi needed some training there, rough as hell!

Jurgen-NL · Post by **Jurgen-NL** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:26 pm

Lanz wrote:i like the idea about the ballast(weight)! i already has some thoughts about that after watching DTM! is it possible to set a fixed damage or fuel setup?

why would you want /Setdamage 1?

if anything my advice would be to go around the damage even thoug i like it myself its just too negative

Post by **dede** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:16 pm

Yeah it's possible to do that.. Of course we would need to find perfect settings so that cars aren't too slow..

/fuel 1 5000 20 100 10

5000sec of acceleration are enough if lightest car starts with 20%..
Play with car startfuel and full slowdown (the last 10)..

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:17 pm

nice! i tried and i think its good! it allows us to push the field together, wich can only be good! maybe 0.5-1 sec per lap from first to last! i think we should do some testing befor 2Test race to find right fuel setting! my times are just to inconsistent to do it by myself!

and offline playing sucks!

i prefer to give the most fuel to championship Leader!
starting with fuel off qualy in first official race! who gets pole has the heaviest car! 2race with reversed starting order and fullest tank to the winner of race1! sounds nice

xzeal · Post by **xzeal** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:40 pm

So when is the next race, the fuel thingy seems interesting, since im bloody slow.

Might be an actual race cup I might enter regularly.

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:52 pm

cup starts sunday 02.01.2011 but it also possible to start one week later if many guys dont have time due to holidays??????????????????????????????

i tried and i think i found the right setting:
/fuel 1 5000 20 100 15
10% of full slowdown was not enought and 20% was to much so i think its good with 15% of full slowdown!
ballast-weight settings:
no fuel ghost on for qualy! fastest car gets 60% of fuel, slowest car gets 22% for 1 race! 2% difference to every player!
for example:
qualy result:
1. siLciR-2. Tijny-3. dede -4. Mister Pom-5. GR8 Arjen!-6. JANNE-7. Mike Nike-8. Lanz-9. JoHn_5-10. Lexx-11. Jurgen-NL-12. Batjunior-13. LUX -14. Jaykoq-15. Dide Dide -16. popowitch -17. Vilkku-18. Etmil -19. Sejtan-20. DEL
startfuel for race1:
1. siLciR 60%-2. Tijny 58%-3. dede 56%-4. Mister Pom 54%-5. GR8 Arjen 52%-6. JANNE 50%-7. Mike Nike 48%-8. Lanz 46%-9. JoHn_5 44%-10. Lexx 42%-11. Jurgen-NL 40%-12. Batjunior 38%-13. LUX 36%-14. Jaykoq 34%-15. Dide Dide 32%-16. popowitch 30%-17. Vilkku 28%-18. Etmil 26%-19. Sejtan 24%-20. DEL 22%
reversed starting grid in 2 race with most fuel to winner of 1 race!

Puschtras Cup Test Race 2, Sunday 19.12.2010 @ 21:00CET

edit: check out here on what track! but already a released one!

Jurgen-NL · Post by **Jurgen-NL** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:46 am

Lanz wrote:cup starts sunday 02.01.2011 but it also possible to start one week later if many guys dont have time due to holidays??????????????????????????????

Puschtras Cup Test Race 2, Sunday 19.12.2010 @ 21:00CET

edit: check out here on what track! but already a released one!

i will be back on 3th of jan so i cant drive the first race

Janne · Post by **Janne** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:13 am

I think some points should be given for top qualifiers. Otherwise being fastest in qualifying may be disfavoured.

lux2 · Post by **lux2** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:33 am

OK about what janne said. Qualify must not have a punishment for faster player or it must have points for all positions.

I think it's easier to link the fuel to the championship points.
So, for first race no fuel (or same fuel) for all.
From the second event, each player will have a fixed fuel based on his championship position.
Easier for the player, easier for who has to control and with maybe a faster managment of the event.

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:17 pm

lux2 wrote:OK about what janne said. Qualify must not have a punishment for faster player or it must have points for all positions.

I think it's easier to link the fuel to the championship points.
So, for first race no fuel (or same fuel) for all.
From the second event, each player will have a fixed fuel based on his championship position.
Easier for the player, easier for who has to control and with maybe a faster managment of the event.

i dont think starting in first rows is a punishment but we can start with fuel also in 2 race of the day! seems good too!
qualy and 1race of the day with no fuel! reversed starting grid and fuel settings like i explained above in 2 race of the day!
most fuel to championship leader!

track for testrace:

TSE_Eisenstadt
http://www.turbosliders.com/view_track.php?id=746

xzeal · Post by **xzeal** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:40 pm

Do we need to sign up for the cup?

Since I might actually be interested. Yes yes xzeal racing - no need to look THAT surprised.

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:58 pm

xzeal wrote:Do we need to sign up for the cup?

sign up will come in official cup topic! after 2 test race!

Post by **dede** » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:51 pm

I agree that first race shouldn't have fuel, since otherwise quali might be a bit weird (qualifying 10th would be better than 1st). Second raceìs startfuel could be based on championship standings, starting pos like we tested.

Ah, I don't know if I'll be home on 2nd of January, so I'd be happy of delaying the beginning of the cup by one week.

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:19 pm

dede wrote: Ah, I don't know if I'll be home on 2nd of January, so I'd be happy of delaying the beginning of the cup by one week.

ok then official cup start is 09.01.2011

im a bit worried now because of reversed starting grid after participating yesterdays scarts race! and my decision is clear assholes out!
no 2nd chance!

shyguy1001 · Post by **shyguy1001** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:16 pm

Lanz wrote:
dede wrote: Ah, I don't know if I'll be home on 2nd of January, so I'd be happy of delaying the beginning of the cup by one week.
ok then official cup start is 09.01.2011

im a bit worried now because of reversed starting grid after participating yesterdays scarts race! and my decision is clear assholes out!
no 2nd chance!

haha - simply make sure you don't do what I did and make sure its definitely ready to race before you start

if I had remembered to turn ghost off that would of saved us a lot of trouble at the start yesterday..

misterpom · Post by **misterpom** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:23 pm

Nice, Lanz. We're going to have fun with this one.

I only hope it won't be a blockfest.

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:44 pm

shyguy1001 wrote: haha - simply make sure you don't do what I did and make sure its definitely ready to race before you start if I had remembered to turn ghost off that would of saved us a lot of trouble at the start yesterday..

dede manages everthing so i can be relaxed! otherwise it would be chaos for sure if i had to do all this!

very pleased and grateful for that!

yeah i think too that we can have a lot of fun, racing against eachother its always nice! i can´t wait to see how fuel setting is working, most of the time i tested it alone! now i can compare it finally in racing mood, to see if it works good or need some changes!
good thing is that in Puschtras Cup you have to drive from the start to the end, without a brake even with no pitstop! rules are clear to everbody! most of the people are known from the League where rules are the same! if you try to be a gentleman you will have a good time! who wants to miss a race where dede starts last?

Post by **dede** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:05 pm

Lanz wrote:dede manages everthing so i can be relaxed!

It's official now. I won't be home this Sunday.. so check my pm in few minutes