Turbo Sliders 2.0.0 Beta

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:20 pm

If it really helps in your situation, this was a quick fix to one specific problem

.

If both client and server are using rc6 and client already has an invalid track, client will get Invalid Track message but when that happens, the track is marked invalid and will not be used again. Now if client reconnects, he should get a new fixed version of the track.

Jeffrey · Post by **Jeffrey** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:39 pm

Ande i had that slight problem i explained before. When i place a tile it comes in the right place where i've put it.

But if i edit it and make a level tile 2 (a bridge), it changes position slighlty and then have to move it left/right up or down from code.

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:02 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Ande i had that slight problem i explained before. When i place a tile it comes in the right place where i've put it.

But if i edit it and make a level tile 2 (a bridge), it changes position slighlty and then have to move it left/right up or down from code.

Does it work if you make it a level tile in the editor, also? I'm sorry I don't quite remember right now how it was done, probably just by making the ID number high enough?

Jeffrey · Post by **Jeffrey** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:06 am

Ande will check after work and reply.

Jeffrey · Post by **Jeffrey** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:57 pm

Ande don't worry about the problem mentioned above, cause some tiles come in the right place and other have a slight difference. So cannot determine exactly what is the problem.

It could be something with my test track or tile.

But when i use a tile/bridge as object (tile 5000) using transparent background it comes ok when seen in game but like this in editor:

How it looks in editor.

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:08 pm

Editor always uses SDL graphics and SDL and OpenGL handle transparency in a slightly different way. I am not exactly sure how SDL internally does it but it uses colorkeying, meaning that color 0,0,0 is mapped to be transparent. Could it be that the transparent pixels in your image are not black? I mean, alpha is 0 but red, green and blue values are not 0. Could it help if you make transparent pixels to have 0 as r, g and b too? Another possibility is that the transparent parts have some non-zero alpha.

therush · Post by **therush** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:42 pm

Hi Ande.

I´m having some weird colorproblems with the r6 beta.

It runs absolutely smooth and everything, but have a look at this:

http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?fil ... Z12996.jpg

http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?fil ... 911713.jpg

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:03 pm

raptor, mt brother, had the same issue.... change the grafx thing to SDL and that will fix the problem

it isnt rc6

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:22 pm

therush wrote:Hi Ande.
I´m having some weird colorproblems with the r6 beta.
It runs absolutely smooth and everything, but have a look at this:
http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?fil ... Z12996.jpg
http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?fil ... 911713.jpg

Did try the game with the earlier rcs? If you did, did you have the same problem with them? What video card do you have and have you updated your drivers? Switching to SDL is not the optimal solution since OpenGL is so much faster. You can get lots of other performance problems with SDL...

It seems that in those images, red component and blue components of colors have been switched. But why, that is the question...

Chevron · Post by **Chevron** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:57 pm

therush wrote:Hi Ande.

I´m having some weird colorproblems with the r6 beta.

It runs absolutely smooth and everything, but have a look at this:

http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?fil ... Z12996.jpg

http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?fil ... 911713.jpg

I had the exact same problem with my Ati Radeon x1600pro... updating drivers fixed it but i'm still having other graphics problems...

Jeffrey · Post by **Jeffrey** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:46 am

When TS 2.0 is installed it creates a couple of files scattered in the C drive.

eg: a couple of eula.3082 files, globdata, install, VC_RED, VC_redist, a couple of install.res.1036.dll etc

What are these files? Are they required?

Post by **Tijny** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:55 am

Yeah, I had that too. It's some kind of redistributable Visual C++ installer, they're not required and you can easily delete those files if you don't want them.

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:55 am

Yes, as Tijny said, they are probably generated by C++ redistributable installer. Turbo Sliders 2.0 is built with Visual C++ 2008 and the official way to distribute programs made with it is to run redistributable installer. The idea is that instead of every program having the same DLL in their installation directory, there is only one copy of it in the system directories. I don't know what exact files it adds and which of them can be removed but I wouldn't touch them...

Post by **Tijny** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:09 am

Well, my Windows was on C:\ (I say "was", because my harddisk crashed 2 days ago and I lost all my data

), my Turbo Sliders was on D:\ and it added the files to the E:\ root. This was a pretty significant clue for me that it was safe to delete them, so I did and it didn't give me any problems.

Jeffrey · Post by **Jeffrey** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:12 pm

Yes, it seems they an be deleted. Seems had no effect on game.

Another question. Can the 2.0version be installed on the v1.8? or better uninstall and install it again.

Thanks

Jazzyclub · Post by **Jazzyclub** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:14 pm

yep but you can make a better installer, if visual c++ are just installed, its no needed to reinstall it again and again and again.....

try to reinstall TS when it is already installed "visual c++ too" and the installer reinstall again c++ library

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:35 pm

Just to let you know, the current rc6 is going to be the final 2.0.0 release. I am still waiting for download.com to update TS before making an "official" release. I don't know what's taking so long but I hope it will happen tomorrow. If there are 1.0.8 servers left, I recommend upgrading to 2.0.0.

The official download links are:

For Windows:
http://www.turbosliders.com/download.php?type=win

For Linux:
http://www.turbosliders.com/download.php?type=lnx

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:09 pm

Download.com update takes too much time, so the game is just released today without using download.com yet. I open a new thread for this.

Elamaton · Post by **Elamaton** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:10 pm

I've got a graphics problem I haven't seen mentioned here before. It shows up when using OpenGL.

I'm running Windows XP under Boot Camp on an iMac Core Duo, 2GB RAM, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, with the latest display drivers (v8.10) installed. The native resolution is 1680x1050. The version of the game is 2.0.0 final.

When I load the game and get to the menu, all the text is more or less garbled. The tiny text between menu items is completely illegible, and the actual menu items look jagged, like badly scaled or something.

Once I start a race, the backgrounds look nice and sharp, but the traffic lights and the cars look awful, with jagged edges, and again, like the result of a scaling operation gone wrong. After the race the result screens look awful in the same way as the menus, with illegible text.

DirectDraw is jerky and unplayable and SDL is simply slow compared to the nice smooth movement of OpenGL, but the menus and the cars look correct while using them.

I tried other resolutions, 1400x1050 (to see if it was about the aspect ratio, nope), 1024x768 (to see if the higher resolutions are somehow broken, nope, this looked even worse).

While writing this, I started the game again and saw more problems that weren't present the first time: the skid marks are drawn in a bright green color overlayed on the actual grey marks, and in curves, they get drawn out of place, about the horizontal distance of two cars away from your car.

Any more information I could provide?

Chevron · Post by **Chevron** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:48 pm

I have the same gfx card and got problems with OGL too. I used newest drivers (8.9) and the graphics were just like you described but when I downgraded them to 8.7, it worked.

Too bad I still have the corrupted crap on the upper side of the screen...

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:19 pm

Elamaton wrote: DirectDraw is jerky and unplayable and SDL is simply slow compared to the nice smooth movement of OpenGL, but the menus and the cars look correct while using them.

Have you tried DirectDraw with Alpha Blending disabled? That should be as fast as OpenGL. The next thing to try would be SDL with much lower resolution.

But yes, there seems to be a big OpenGL problems with some ATI Radeons. At least X1950 and X1600 have problems with certain drivers. It is very hard for me to do anything about it since I don't have that card but I try to think about what to do...

Meanwhile, let me know of all affected cards and if certain driver versions help or make the situation worse.

J.Roma · Post by **J.Roma** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:57 pm

Still working the direct download?

Is something wrong there or just with me?

A new page is opening, it isnt direct anymore.

Thanks for the attention.

Post by **dede** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:25 am

J.Roma wrote:Still working the direct download?

Is something wrong there or just with me?

A new page is opening, it isnt direct anymore.

Thanks for the attention.

I downgraded the Windows link (now it's pointing again at jollygoodgames), but something happened with Download.com. So if Ande reads this, please have a check.

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:53 am

At least this link seems to work:

http://www.download.com/Turbo-Sliders/3 ... 54741.html

This is the more direct download link which works for me, how about the others?

http://www.download.com/3001-7563_4-572639.html

Post by **dede** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:33 pm

Ok, I updated links again.