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Post by KWhitesel31 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:46 am

I'm new to this and was just wondering about a few things. First off is the racing simulated? Or do I actually race? Also what do I all need to do to get in a series and race? Plus is there a way that I can make races? If so then what do I need to download to do this?


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Post by Mike Nike » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:57 am

downloads:

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well, there can be 20 players in a race, partly filled up with ai players.
so basicly races are not simulated, but you can kinda simulate them with ai players, if you want to.
but there might be (solveable, i think) problems in case you want to simulate a race with ai players pitting.

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Post by KWhitesel31 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:20 pm

I downloaded the file but when I open the game on my computer I get a double screened game?

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Post by Mike Nike » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:40 pm

what video settings you have (see sliders.ini)?
and can you upload a screenshot of that?

it might usually help if you change some settings:

try this for example or toggle fullscreen off (0), try other resolutions or opengl instead of dirext (1 0 instead 0 1)

# Video settings

FullScreen 1
DoubleBuffer 1
OpenGL 0
DirectX 1
ScreenXSize 800
ScreenYSize 600
PreferredScale 1.0
FitInScreen 0
UseFixedLoadScale 1
AdjustCameraBySpeed 1
EnlargeToFitInScreen 1
MenuEffects 0
ShowTireMarks 0
AlphaBlending 1
Lightmapping 0
ShowSmoke 0
ShowShadows 1
FixedFPS 1
HudMode 1
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Post by shyguy1001 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:44 pm

Hey, view some races on my youtube channel ( www.youtube.com/sliderstv ) to see what racing in the big leagues is like!
www.youtube.com/sliderstv <---- Best Turbosliders Videos ever made ;)

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Post by KWhitesel31 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:15 pm

I took a screenshot of it but im not sure how to upload the picture! But i cannot change anything as the texts are blending together where I cant read them.

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Post by shyguy1001 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:09 pm

You can add me on skype @ shyguy1001 or hotmail @ shyguy1001@hotmail.co.uk if you want any help..
www.youtube.com/sliderstv <---- Best Turbosliders Videos ever made ;)

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Post by Whiplash » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:21 pm

KWhitesel31 wrote:I took a screenshot of it but im not sure how to upload the picture! But i cannot change anything as the texts are blending together where I cant read them.
There is sliders.ini file in game folder. Open it with notepad and just change these lines to:
OpenGL 0
DirectX 1

Then run the game and your screen should be fine.

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Post by KWhitesel31 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:26 pm

It worked thanks! Now I was also wondering how to add different cars and tracks? I added Martinsville but when I try to race there it will only allow my car and thats it! Even when I set it to have ai? And also how do I make a server for my friends and I to race against each other?

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Post by Whiplash » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:46 pm

KWhitesel31 wrote:It worked thanks! Now I was also wondering how to add different cars and tracks? I added Martinsville but when I try to race there it will only allow my car and thats it! Even when I set it to have ai? And also how do I make a server for my friends and I to race against each other?
O boy... :)
Listen, in order to get ai players on new track you need to create their driving lines by yourself.
To get all crucial informations about the game, just go in the game folder and then "doc" folder. There are documents of all game parts. For ai read "README-ai.txt". :wink:

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Post by KWhitesel31 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:56 pm

I did exactly what it said and I do not get the Lines in the ai folder. Plus it says I can put a new car on the game and get lines for it. But when I try to upload the new cars they will not show up. Sorry for the questions I new to this whole thing lol

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Post by shyguy1001 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:15 pm

The best thing to do is to join online leagues.. Turbosliders.com F1 League, F1SL, SCARTS to name a few. Also, you can try going to the full contact racing server (crashing other players is allowed), usually this is the most likely to have people in it round the clock.
www.youtube.com/sliderstv <---- Best Turbosliders Videos ever made ;)

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Post by KWhitesel31 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:18 pm

I want to race the ai too because I play it at my school but the online part is blocked

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Post by Whiplash » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:50 pm

KWhitesel31 wrote:I did exactly what it said and I do not get the Lines in the ai folder.

You probably missed something. Read it more careful.
KWhitesel31 wrote:Plus it says I can put a new car on the game and get lines for it. But when I try to upload the new cars they will not show up. Sorry for the questions I new to this whole thing lol
Where did you put those files of downloaded car? You must put them in ...Turbo Sliders/cars folder. Don't put them to ...Turbo Sliders/cars/tmp folder!
Also, you can't add files while you're in the game. First add them and then run the game. If that doesn't work, car files are probably broken.

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Post by KWhitesel31 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:00 am

Is there possibly a video that shows me how to do it? Because I pretty sure that I am doing it right! The car file that I am trying to put on is the Nascar cars from SCARTS. Should I put the zipped file in the cars folder? Or should I extract all the files into the cars folder?

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Post by KWhitesel31 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:13 am

I figured out the ai line but when I do it all the cars just turn left into the wall. How can I fix this? Plus I got the cars downloaded! :) But is there a way that I can make each AI drive a different Nascar Paint Scheme?

THANKS for all the help! I really appreciate it! :)

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Post by JonnO » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:04 am

KWhitesel31 wrote:I figured out the ai line but when I do it all the cars just turn left into the wall. How can I fix this?
Yes! I was waiting to comment until you said this. I THINK the problem of this is due to the start/finish line being in a different place to the grid. Because we run rolling starts in SCARTS, the cars start off in the "no-wear" zone, which is the grid. It stops you from losing fuel/tyres in there when we are waiting for something. So when the race starts, all the AI cars turn straight from there and dive straight down to the start/finish line.

I think this is the problem anyway because I also had the same thing when I wanted to do this with AI. So I presume moving the start/finish line will work, but I guess Shygay/Burnout would be the best as they know the scarts tracks better than me :P

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Post by dore » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:01 pm

You can have different cars on the track. Under the car selection screen from the main menu, select the option "Fixed: No" and then select however many cars you want to use. As for the AI lines, the only way you're going to be able to run the SCARTS tracks is by either moving the grid or the start line, neither of which I've accomplished without breaking things :D

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Post by Whiplash » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:54 pm

KWhitesel31 wrote:I figured out the ai line but when I do it all the cars just turn left into the wall.
Well, when you're driving for the driving lines you should check the created file of them. In order to delete bad lines you should delete them from the file. I suggest you to keep only about first 20 of them (notice that all text must finish with "end", so don't delete that). So, drive as many laps you can in order to get about 20 clean and fast ones.
Man, it's all nicely explained in "README-ai.txt".

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Debug information about laps is put to output.txt and by searching lines which do not contain "coll: 0" you can find which laps caused the AI
to collide on obstacles. If you want to make your lines as good as
possible, set AI skill to 5/5 and the number of laps to something big
like 20, and then make the AI drive a race. Then, check output.txt,
open the lap.new file and remove the laps that caused collisions. This
can be very painful since some tracks can require you to remove many
good lines and drive new lines until you finally find working
ones. Try not to go very close to obstacles especially in inner
curves.

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Post by JonnO » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:40 pm

Whiplash wrote:
KWhitesel31 wrote:I figured out the ai line but when I do it all the cars just turn left into the wall.
Well, when you're driving for the driving lines you should check the created file of them. In order to delete bad lines you should delete them from the file. I suggest you to keep only about first 20 of them (notice that all text must finish with "end", so don't delete that). So, drive as many laps you can in order to get about 20 clean and fast ones.
Man, it's all nicely explained in "README-ai.txt".
Yes, but because SCARTS tracks are different to normal tracks (the start/finish line is on the home straight and the grid is on the back straight), they instantly dive into the wall trying to get to the start line on the other side of the track, which means the start/finish line or the grid needs to be moved so they are together surely.

Burnout has AI cars running on Daytona, so I'l ask him when he comes online 8) I tried setting AI cars on Daytona before and they dive to the wall, but anything other than SCARTS tracks are fine, which is why I'm pretty sure its the placement of start/finish line and grid :)

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Post by KWhitesel31 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:07 pm

Alright thanks everyone! Is there any oval tracks that arent SCARTS?

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Post by dore » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:24 am

There's the default track Arena, and there are a couple on the Touring Car server that I remember but don't know the name of

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Post by KWhitesel31 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:36 pm

I made ai lines for SCARTS on the track Arena. It is put in the folder as a .NEW file. How do I change it to a .lap file? Also do I have to make ai lines for every single Nascar car? Or cani just make one and it will work for all of them?

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