TS centralised website (turbosliders.com) - Step 2

Post by **dede** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:58 am

Thank you for voting and commenting the first poll about this topic, now it's time to understand who would be your favourite leader. Instead of purposing a list of names, i wanted to ask you a specific thing: this is because if you vote for a person that isn't interested in being the leader, this won't help deciding who will be.

If you vote NO, please specify in your comment WHY you did that and WHO would you prefer (one or more names).

wazaari · Post by **wazaari** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:21 am

i voted: Yes, it is ok

Happy that someone wanna do it!!!
I am quite sure that u can do it better than everyone else

(i ll not write why here or it will happen again that i ll recieve lots of critcics from american and finnish

)!!!
I am quite sure also that u will need some help for site gestion etc....

dragonstar · Post by **dragonstar** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:03 am

What do you mean by you being the leader? That you would do all by yourself, or that you would do the programming according to other's ideas, or something else? You could tell us little bit more about this idea, because it's quite difficult for us to say something about this if we don't know what you actually are planning to do.

Jeffrey · Post by **Jeffrey** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:13 am

I Voted: Yes, it is ok

The Leader must be open to everyone' opinion.

Post by **dede** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:41 am

dragonstar wrote:What do you mean by you being the leader? That you would do all by yourself, or that you would do the programming according to other's ideas, or something else? You could tell us little bit more about this idea, because it's quite difficult for us to say something about this if we don't know what you actually are planning to do.

Oh, yep, good question. This is how I want to proceed:

FIRST PART
1) ask if the leader is important for the project (done)
2) ask if dede is ok as a leader (this poll)
3) analize first 2 points to see what people thing about me and about project's leader -> decide to continue or not

SECOND PART
3) open a topic about features needed by TS community
4) find guys that want to join the project
5) discuss about features required by TS community (to decide which of them are possible to realize and which not)
6) make a list of features that the project will have
7) ask people if the features are ok and we can go on
8) start the project

What's this project?
The idea is to make the official website for TurboSliders, of course linked to JGG or directly to Ande. I have some ideas about it, but I want that the community decides directly the content and the structure of this website.

xzeal · Post by **xzeal** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:28 pm

Ippon-wazaari wrote:i voted: Yes, it is ok

Happy that someone wanna do it!!!
I am quite sure that u can do it better than everyone else (i ll not write why here or it will happen again that i ll recieve lots of critcics from american and finnish )!!!
I am quite sure also that u will need some help for site gestion etc....

I wouldn't say everyone (or actually i think it is supposed to be "anyone") else, but i guess dede is one fot he most qualified who are motivated enough to do it.

And when did you piss off the americans?

. Pissing off the Finns is not difficult there is what, 8 million of them? But the americans... over 250 million lots of different culutres ethnic minorities etc. from which 5 percent are of Italian origin. Wow... That's like 3 percent of the worlds population!

Hengari · Post by **Hengari** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:30 pm

xzeal wrote: Pissing off the Finns is not difficult there is what, 8 million of them?

In the north there are about 5 million of Finns who live in the darkness.

Post by **dede** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:04 pm

If you vote NO, please specify in your comment WHY you did that and WHO would you prefer (one or more names).

Mouse · Post by **Mouse** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:20 pm

I voted No, i suppose many can understand why (Dede grrrr

). But Dede if you do start this project i will not back out, im here to help you.

I would feel better if there was not 1 single leader of this project. I dunno who, but there must be some others out there who would step up.

lol btw i am of Italian origin

otherwise i would not be with GPOR

Post by **dede** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:26 pm

mouse wrote:I voted No, i suppose many can understand why (Dede grrrr ).

Explain why, I can't get it..

mouse wrote:I would feel better if there was not 1 single leader of this project.

No, this is not possible. There must be one leader. He has to control others' work, take important decisions etc. However, I'm speaking only about making the website. When the website is ready, it can be administrated by more persons.

Mouse · Post by **Mouse** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:08 pm

dede wrote:
mouse wrote:I voted No, i suppose many can understand why (Dede grrrr ).
Explain why, I can't get it..

Dede in the past (in game) there were some times that made me really not like you. You said some very disrespectful things to others in italian, though i did find out what you said. Sorry but i dont forget these things.

Nowadays we have more mature conversations (and get along for the most part) so i feel more open about the things you say and do.

Jarno · Post by **Jarno** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:09 pm

I voted no because one person only doesnt work. There should be couple of project leaders (one finnish, one brazilian and one other maybe according number of players). So everyone can do that site to work on every country and player.
And when site is finished it should be made to used by players. So not only one or two moderators like ts-central. Site should be players site, not personal page.

But it is ok that you dede are one of them.

wazaari · Post by **wazaari** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:15 pm

Jarno wrote:I voted no because one person only doesnt work. There should be couple of project leaders (one finnish, one brazilian and one other maybe according number of players). So everyone can do that site to work on every country and player.
And when site is finished it should be made to used by players. So not only one or two moderators like ts-central. Site should be players site, not personal page.

But it is ok that you dede are one of them.

It is obvoius....
I don t think he wanna do it by himslef!!!!
but Mind must be one...(lots of examples in the past)

Post by **dede** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:22 pm

Jarno wrote:one finnish, one brazilian and one other maybe according number of players

Yes, good point. I agree about the brazilian leader: they are part of another TS community, different from european one, so it would be fair having one of them in the team, at least.
I don't understand why you require a finnish leader: the community is the same. We need an european leader, and one brazilian (if they are interested).

Jarno · Post by **Jarno** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:26 pm

dede wrote:
Jarno wrote:one finnish, one brazilian and one other maybe according number of players
Yes, good point. I agree about the brazilian leader: they are part of another TS community, different from european one, so it would be fair having one of them in the team, at least.
I don't understand why you require a finnish leader: the community is the same. We need an european leader, and one brazilian (if they are interested).

I prefer finnish because lots of players are finnish and game is made in finnish...

Post by **dede** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:08 pm

Jarno wrote:I prefer finnish because lots of players are finnish and game is made in finnish...

Who then? This game isn't new. Why noone thought about starting a project like this? This is pretty unbelievable: the only ones that tried to make a centralised website are Mouse and Fasteddie, and they aren't finnish. All what I noticed since I started playing TS (1 year) is that finnish players are trying to isolate themselves from strangers. I don't know if this is a sort of nationalism or similar, but this is a thing I don't want to see in the new website and, of course then, in the leader.

This could seem a way to convince you that I'm the best and I'm the one that can make something like this. Really, this isn't my goal. I'm the first saying that I'm not always behaving in the right way in the game. I admit it. All what I want is to have a TS centralised website and community, and I'd really love if some finnish/brasilian/italian/estonian/american... player make it in the way we need. I won't enjoy making it, this is for sure. But this is my favourite game, and I don't want to play always with the same 4-5 players: this is not fun! At all! So, maybe this will be my contribute.

xzeal · Post by **xzeal** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:42 pm

dede wrote:
Jarno wrote:I prefer finnish because lots of players are finnish and game is made in finnish...
Who then? This game isn't new. Why noone thought about starting a project like this? This is pretty unbelievable: the only ones that tried to make a centralised website are Mouse and Fasteddie, and they aren't finnish. All what I noticed since I started playing TS (1 year) is that finnish players are trying to isolate themselves from strangers. I don't know if this is a sort of nationalism or similar, but this is a thing I don't want to see in the new website and, of course then, in the leader.

This could seem a way to convince you that I'm the best and I'm the one that can make something like this. Really, this isn't my goal. I'm the first saying that I'm not always behaving in the right way in the game. I admit it. All what I want is to have a TS centralised website and community, and I'd really love if some finnish/brasilian/italian/estonian/american... player make it in the way we need. I won't enjoy making it, this is for sure. But this is my favourite game, and I don't want to play always with the same 4-5 players: this is not fun! At all! So, maybe this will be my contribute.

Oh come on all he said was he would prefer a finn I'd prefer an Estonian and Buddha would prefer a buddhist.

Jazzyclub · Post by **Jazzyclub** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:43 pm

dede wrote:All what I noticed since I started playing TS (1 year) is that finnish players are trying to isolate themselves from strangers. I don't know if this is a sort of nationalism or similar, but this is a thing I don't want to see in the new website and, of course then, in the leader.

SAINTS WORDS, i think the same thing about finnish players....sorry but is true!

Post by **dede** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:11 pm

Hey, I didn't intend to say that finnish players are shit and so on. That was just my point of view about Jarno's thoughts. If we start doing the war on these things, then I don't see any point to make a centralised website. A finnish will do a finnish website, an italian guy will do an italian website etc. Bleah..

Hengari · Post by **Hengari** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:12 pm

dede wrote:Who then? This game isn't new. Why noone thought about starting a project like this?

Talking about "thought starting" a project like this is not right. Some finns have thought about starting this kind of project but it is not so easy to do it alone and some have waited JGG to something especially after hatu came. It just needs so much work to plan it and keep it going so many haven't got enough power to start it.

Maybe now the TS community is again strong enough to do something like that.

dede wrote:All what I noticed since I started playing TS (1 year) is that finnish players are trying to isolate themselves from strangers.

Just plain bullshit. I don't see finnish players trying to isolate themselves. More or less the Brazialians are isolating themselves having a portuquese forum and so

but it's just because they are so far from Europe and have strong community there.

dede wrote:All what I want is to have a TS centralised website and community, and I'd really love if some finnish/brasilian/italian/estonian/american... player make it in the way we need.

I'm sure that gathering a right group to keep it going will make it good. For example I like those JJT reports xzeal has made and so on.

Post by **dede** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:23 pm

Hengari wrote:Maybe now the TS community is again strong enough to do something like that.

Yes, I really hope this.

Hengari wrote:Just plain bullshit. I don't see finnish players trying to isolate themselves.

Ok, maybe I used an unappropriate word: I intended to say that many finnish players aren't helping new players joining the game and feeling themselves part of the community. I know that also other players are't doing that, but still..

Hengari wrote:I'm sure that gathering a right group to keep it going will make it good. For example I like those JJT reports xzeal has made and so on.

Yes, xzeal could be a good member of the team, though I don't know if he has programming knowledges and if he is interested.

Mouse · Post by **Mouse** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:00 pm

I dont have programming skills, but i can write articals. Since my 1st language is english i could do well. Oh and many know i make many typos....well i can pre-write in MS Word with a spell checker!

Ime heir too help yoi gize! Oh darn!
PS - xzeal i deleted your post for you.

Post by **Hatu** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:48 pm

I voted Yes, it's ok

You have shown me all the leadership qualities just about through conversation with you and emails. Most importantly, you have a will to complete the goal and you really WANT to do this and see it get finished. The leader would have to be someone who wants this, badly. But also, someone who knows how to get there. Where to start and where to end. I don't know if I would automatically say you should be leader, but you definitely have the heart and willingness to do so.

I personally, don't know if you can get things completed. Tons of projects are talked about, and planned out, and organized even by professionals whether it's a gaming project or even a website. By far, the majority of them still fail. So whoever the leader is, choose wisely. And dont get too power hungry

Post by **dede** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:03 am

Thanks for your comments Hatu, very well done.

Creator · Post by **Creator** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:48 am

Fine by me, too. Jollygood Games will offer the support we can, which is mainly server space, domain registsration if needed, links from all our sites and (believe it or not - our main page) and I can even do some programming (php, javascript) if help is needed in that area.

What I do want is more visible linking to the Turbo Sliders page at Jollygood Games, and why not our main page too. TS-Central doesn't (at least a while back didn't) have any links to our site on the main page and so there's no quick links to download the game should anyone find the site and not have the game yet... and for Google PR reasons, linking from our main page to a site which doesn't link back to the main page, just isn't an option...

Ok, I know that was off-topic, but I just had to let it out...

TurboSliders.com

TS centralised website (turbosliders.com) - Step 2

What about if the leader of the project will be me?

TS centralised website (turbosliders.com) - Step 2