Team life and solo Players

[wazaari]

Hi friends,
I started this topic because i would like to have some considerations of what you think of team life/solo life

If you are in a team:
1) What you like of being in a team?
2) What ideals of you are represented or would you like to be represented in a team
3) How should your leader be?
4) Is team life different from solo playing? why?
5) What would you like to see in ts/cups/forums to involve more people in team lfe??
6) Other your personal opinions


If you are not in a team
1) Why you are not in a team?? (don't you like team life or there isn't the right team for you?)
2) Have you ever consider joining a team???
3) How would your ideal team be??
4) Is team life different from solo playing? why?
5) If more cups would be done for team challenges would you consider joining a team??
6) Other your personal opinions

Cya,
Waz

[dede]

1) What you like of being in a team?
2) What ideals of you are represented or would you like to be represented in a team
3) How should your leader be?
4) Is team life different from solo playing? why?
5) What would you like to see in ts/cups/forums to involve more people in team lfe??
6) Other your personal opinions

1) I like the feeling. A team helps getting new motivation for me: it's good to have friends for training (ohh the good wanking days ) for cups and tournaments, team cups (though I had only a couple of them in two years )
2) A team is a group of friends driving under the same tag. Sharing tips, training&having fun together is really the very first thing I want from my team (my = the team I'm part of). About those 'ideals', I think that they are pretty standard for every team: fair play racing, good behaviour with newbies and outside the team.
3) Leader is the one who represents team ideals. But I don't think that this figure is really important in TurboSliders. Leaders are probably useful inside the team, but they really have no importance outside.
4) I played just a couple of weeks without having a team, but I really think that I would have quit playing long time ago without Ippon.
5) Absolutely yes. What you feel during team cups is really unique.

[Jeffrey]

TSM PRESIDENT SPEAKS:

If you are in a team:
1) What you like of being in a team?

A nice well organized championship. The members all give a helping hand eg. members who check the website after i do the updates, members who form part of the disciplinary board and analyse protests, members who take care of the news magazines.. etc etc. Teamwork is very important in our club.


2) What ideals of you are represented or would you like to be represented in a team

Did not understand this question..sorry


3) How should your leader be?

The leader should be communicative, have a good ear, patient and have leadership skills.

4) Is team life different from solo playing? why?

Yes its different and more fun. Racing with your club members is more exiting.

5) What would you like to see in ts/cups/forums to involve more people in team lfe??

Dont know. Cause personally i think its not that ts/cups/forum that must attract people. Its the other way round. The people themselves must 1st be attracted.


6) Other your personal opinions

Its nice to be in a club. But if something is organized, must be orgainsed well. That is soemthing i really stress in TSM - DO IT WELL, or DO NOTHING.

[Z]

This is simply a great topic, Mr.Wazaari!

I'd like to see more active team life among the top drivers of the game. This has multiple benefits. I don't understand why a big portion of players won't join a team. Some are too picky, some are too proud of themselves as a hi class players and some have too less time - that's my reasoning.

Anyway, I think that being in a team offers you clearly more than what you can achieve as a solo player. It brings the community nearer, helps you to establish yourself in the game, makes different kind of interesting tournaments reachable and gives you new friends inside TS. But what's the most remarkable is the snowball effect there is: when a lot of players get this "team boost" on, it will result in more active servers, more content for gaming sessions, more reasons for new players to enter the game! When they, in turn, found their new teams, we have a healthy and hopefully never-ending circle here that makes the game more alive.

Thus, being in teams in general is beneficial to the whole community. This is why also JGG should encourage and support more people to found teams (yes, I know you have done it) and why there should be better support for teams inside the game (I don't want reply to this, unfortunately I already have your message in my head =)).

Of course, the team quality varies a lot. A tag is not a team, but even it is better than no tag at all, usually.

Instead of paying too much attention on the team leader, it's more important to consider the core of the team. This group of 2-3 players is extremely important for the team to succeed. They should be tight together, closely familiar and active players and organizers obviously. A good team core sees all the players as potential future resource for the team and observers the playerbase for new potential recruitments in a long term. This means both newcomers to the game, solo players and even the players currently in other teams. Trying not to "steal" them, but to bond with them, is a way to ensure you have good relationships to many potential members in the future as well. Obviously team core should represent the values the team has announced, for instance hi-end politeness in racing.

It's going to be interesting year for TS teams, some big changes have already taken place. Hopefully we have more top drivers in teams towards the end of the year!

[wazaari]

Thanks z...i can't not agree with you again!!!
Anyway i would like to hear opinions of solo players!!!
Etana Janne T Mike Jarno etc c'mon!!!

[olio]

1) What you like of being in a team?

It's nice to have players under the same team to work out. And the help I can get for driving (tips, advices, etc) and even to other things outside TS. It's nice to be a part of a group that gets along and helps each other out. And of course to cheer for team mates in the same/in another cup.

2) What ideals of you are represented or would you like to be represented in a team

dede said it quite well already, fair play, no bw-driving, friendly to noobies and try to help them out (more important than many understand..), and so on, the basic stuff.

3) How should your leader be?

Helpful, understanding, patient, active

4) Is team life different from solo playing? why?

Sure it is, for me at least I can see it most easy in DIT's, I have wanked with dede, so he has given me advices and so on, I have been able to monitor his driving lines etc. It has been very important to my development. And we have trained for other cups/tournaments together as well. It's much more fun to practise with someone, than do it alone. Some comments I said already in first question.

5) What would you like to see in ts/cups/forums to involve more people in team lfe??

Team cups, absolutely. Only for real teams with real team members. If someone isn't in a team, he/she isn't able to participate.


I also would like to know, why so many top players aren't in a team.

[[Swoot]Prazene]

I think that solo players are not in a team for 6 main reasons:

1) They are too lazy (in fact no one of them spent 3 minutes to answer to this topic). Their genereal behaviour in ts is low chat activity, low/nonexistent forum activity ...
(35% of solo players are like that)

2) Lack of comunication abilities:
# not english speakers
# not able to entertain relationships with other in a reasonable way
(25% of solo players)

3) Lack of time
(25%)

4) Bad behaviour (no one wants them in a team)
(5%)

5) Not like team activity or there is not a good team for them
(5-10%)

6) others (0-5%)

[Jarno]

If you are not in a team
1) Why you are not in a team?? (don't you like team life or there isn't the right team for you?)
2) Have you ever consider joining a team???
3) How would your ideal team be??
4) Is team life different from solo playing? why?
5) If more cups would be done for team challenges would you consider joining a team??
6) Other your personal opinions

1. There isnt any team i would be interested right now...or maybe there is...
2. Yes
3. Nice players, multiple leaders, good friendships and players who play a lot.
4. I have never been on team so i dont know
5. That doesnt matter when joining in team. But if you are in a team then of course it is good to have team cups.
6. Teams are good thing but there should be something special in each teams. Nowadays they are too much like each others. And maybe something own team cup could help teams to gain good reputation.

[wazaari]

yes i agree with you
Own team cups helps teams to get their reputation higher!!!
Swoot and URL seems to know it very well and their reputation is getting better also for that reasons.
Flow just had 1 cup if i remember well, would be nice to have more sliders cup.
TL & Ippon should start thinking at it too.

Jarno: i hope i will find a team shortly for you.
It would be good both for you and comunity i think.


About me, I ll try to set up more events for my future team.
Rough Triatlon was planned for being the monthly Ippon event for 2007, but now it will be the monthly rough event (like jjg is the ghost event and dit is the wankers event)

[dede]

TL & Ippon should start thinking at it too.

Sorry?

[Burn]

All who have posted in this topic:
Is it very important to be on a team?
It's not required

Why should all teams have a cup?
If they just want to have fun racing, then let them!

Last Question:
People such as Jarno, Tijny, Mike Nike, etana, and the rest of the experienced solo players don't want to join team for these reasons. These are my opinions.

1) They just want to be SOLO and race, wank, and have fun with other people.

2) Some of them feel they are too good for a team, which I don't agree with and neither do players such as dede, Punatianen, Hengari, Claudia, and Limp-pu.

And 3) They are still a little up-tight on joining a team and want to check out a few teams before they make there final desicion

[mikko]

If you are not in a team
1) Why you are not in a team?? (don't you like team life or there isn't the right team for you?)

Being in a team requires commitments for the team. I do not want any new commitments. I have them too many already in my personal life. Furthermore, I want to play this game the way I want, not the way other people want.

2) Have you ever consider joining a team???

No, not seriously. Not any current team at least.

3) How would your ideal team be??

The only way I could be in a team would be as its leader. I have half-seriously considered establishing a FIA team, in which the team members would have nicks of real racing drivers. But that is unlikely to happen anytime soon, perhaps never. I’m simply way too busy for that.

4) Is team life different from solo playing? why?

Sure it is. See my answer for question 1.

5) If more cups would be done for team challenges would you consider joining a team??

No.

6) Other your personal opinions

While I’m not a member of any team and unlikely to become one, I think teams are very important for TS. Without teams, the game could have died already.

[[COL]SirWhite]

1) It's obviously more fun than being solo.
2) COL has always cherished ideals above else. Some ignorant ppl might disagree on some of them however, but in the end I suppose common ppl let themselves be blinded with false facts and prejucides.
3) Like me
4) It's ofc different. In a team u share a common cause. As where in solo u serve none but urself. It's always a positive factor to have a supportin environment to back u up at ur worst and best days.
5) Some good responses already, nothing to add here.
6) Hum... to an old timer like myself I'm always happy to see new face enter a race. What I think the game needs more is training-teams. F.ex. Ippon^2 r doing a good work in this department. What might not be the best team around could still be the best team for the game. I salute and hope more teams would take this example.

[u9]

If you are in a team:
1) What you like of being in a team?
2) What ideals of you are represented or would you like to be represented in a team
3) How should your leader be?
4) Is team life different from solo playing? why?
5) What would you like to see in ts/cups/forums to involve more people in team lfe??
6) Other your personal opinions

1) Being part of a greater whole. Having support from your teammates is great. Not that I need it, but maybe being part of a greater whole is part of what has kept me around for over a year now.

2) Honesty, dignity and respect. Fair play and moral behavior. I want my team to represent the same ideals I stand for myself.

3) Multiple leaders, but I hardly see the point in having a leader per say and prefer a team to take decisions together. A hierarchical structure in a team seems pointless to me and I would prefer a planar team where every member's opinion has the same value.

4) (See 1) Team play is probably what has kept me around for so long.

5) Nothing much, maybe some cups now and then. Basically I completely understand people who do not want to join teams and I don't see it necessary to "encourage" them to do so. (see also 6.)

6) I think a team should come together because they have common interests, ideals, opinions, whatever. And if you haven't found that, then don't join a team.

[dede]

5) Nothing much, maybe some cups now and then. Basically I completely understand people who do not want to join teams and I don't see it necessary to "encourage" them to do so. (see also 6.)

If the "perfect" team doesn't exist for those, then why not creating it? Team cups can encourage them

[Burn]

You are absouluteley correct about the team cups issue! dede

[u9]

...If the "perfect" team doesn't exist for those, then why not creating it? Team cups can encourage them

What if you can't? What if you don't have any common ground to stand on with other players? Create a team with 1 member? (you = they)

I guess what I am trying to say is if they don't want to be a member of a team for whatever reason, then by all means don't take it so hard. Some people prefer it that way.

[Mike Nike]

Someone asked me to reply here, so...

1) "don't you like team life or there isn't the right team for you?" -> 2nd
2) "Have you ever consider joining a team???" -> sure
3) "How would your ideal team be??" -> depends on the type of reason the team was created for. But in general: a group of social gentlemanlike people
4) "Is team life different from solo playing? why?" -> yes, in a team there is team spirit and the force/wish to show up here and there, solo = you are free and have no forces (force might sound so negative -> i cannot remember a negative force when being in a TS team yet)
5) "If more cups would be done for team challenges would you consider joining a team??" -> the question is if i would consider joining a team a bit more -> yes, a bit
6) "Other your personal opinions" -> frequently team cups could certainly add some spice to TS - especially teamcups are nice cups to remember if you drove together with some nice teammates (go YO! go )