TS centralised website (turbosliders.com) - Features Request

[dede]

One nice thing for newbies would be "ircpage". There everyone could join #turbosliders channel. This would be good for newbies who dont know how to use irc-things.

Actually I've downloaded a script that works as client via web-page.

[dede]

Ok, I have an important news.
I thought again to the project I am (or I was) going to realize, I thought about the current state of TS, I thought about what Fasteddie wronte in his ts-central homepage, I thought about what Ande said about the new demo version. Everything was fine some day ago. Everything worked. Today I spoke about my project with an italian guy, not very known -maybe- in TS community, and he arrived to the conclusion that I'm an idiot. He made me think again and actually I found some things that aren't ok anymore. I think that before starting this project I need to speak with Ande, Jani and Hatu, in order to define these things that aren't ok.
I am sorry to all TS community, but at the moment I can't say if I will continue this project or not. There are too many strange things to speak about with Ande, Jani and Hatu. Anyway, all what we said and you suggested could be helpful if someone wants to make something for TS community. Maybe I will continue, maybe not.

[Mouse]

OK i need some more info on what is going on. Dede could you fill us in on what is going on with you? That conversation you had, what happend?

And when did TS-Central close?

I feel sick about everything now...

[dede]

OK i need some more info on what is going on. Dede could you fill us in on what is going on with you? That conversation you had, what happend?

Yep, I will tell you what's the problem. Soon, soon.

[Jeffrey]

I think that before starting this project I need to speak with Ande, Jani and Hatu, in order to define these things that aren't ok.

To some extent i agree with Dede. I think Dede wants to know the future of this game. Its not worth it to create this central website, if the developers are not with us or intend to continue the progress/updating of game.

First we must know if the developers of the game would like to join/help and continue improving the game. Otherwise it would be useless to create a webiste and advertise a 'dead' game.

Hope that Ande, Jani and Hatu will give the TS Community the go ahead, which means that they will continue the develpment of this brilliant addictive game.

Correct me if i'm wrong Dede.[/url]

[dede]

To some extent i agree with Dede. I think Dede wants to know the future of this game. Its not worth it to create this central website, if the developers are not with us or intend to continue the progress/updating of game.

Well done, you got the problem. I thought again to what Ande wrote about the new demo version, I went through his message.. well my conclusion is: we suggested things to improve the game (the well known demo mode), we offered to build a ts centralised website completely for free that would help selling the game and showing features and community. I don't see any other case in which the main website, the official one, is completely done by the community. We offere MONTHS of work in order to SELL more licenses (more money to JGG and Ande). We just ask in exchange this new demo mode that:
1) shows ALL the features of the game
2) brings more players to full servers (helps the community)

I would like to remember to JGG and Ande that DEMO PLAYERS aren't knowing that:
- they can join cups
- there is a community
- there are game mods (thanks to punaball i sold something like 7 licenses)
- they can have much more than 30 tracks and cars
- they can race F1 cups or other types of cups

How can we sell licenses without showing players these features?? Do you know how I sold licenses?? Do you want to know???
I gave them a cracked-full version of the game in order to test ALL the features in the game, and then I told them: "Ok guys, this is the game. The punaball cup is starting in 2 weeks. You must have a license to join"!

[diesel 999]

Hello to all good people,
hm, wtf is going here? what we are talking about in this thread ? About JGG DEALERSHIP PECULIARITY or about TS COMMUNITY ? In my opinion JGG gave to us too much democracy in all TS future visions and projects.
Lets make that damn TS Community FINALLY !!! Its not a new idea , but we really need it.
Thank you very much-
[orange] diesel

[road_oktane]

To some extent i agree with Dede. I think Dede wants to know the future of this game. Its not worth it to create this central website, if the developers are not with us or intend to continue the progress/updating of game.

Well done, you got the problem. I thought again to what Ande wrote about the new demo version, I went through his message.. well my conclusion is: we suggested things to improve the game (the well known demo mode), we offered to build a ts centralised website completely for free that would help selling the game and showing features and community. I don't see any other case in which the main website, the official one, is completely done by the community. We offere MONTHS of work in order to SELL more licenses (more money to JGG and Ande). We just ask in exchange this new demo mode that:
1) shows ALL the features of the game
2) brings more players to full servers (helps the community)

I would like to remember to JGG and Ande that DEMO PLAYERS aren't knowing that:
- they can join cups
- there is a community
- there are game mods (thanks to punaball i sold something like 7 licenses)
- they can have much more than 30 tracks and cars
- they can race F1 cups or other types of cups

How can we sell licenses without showing players these features?? Do you know how I sold licenses?? Do you want to know???
I gave them a cracked-full version of the game in order to test ALL the features in the game, and then I told them: "Ok guys, this is the game. The punaball cup is starting in 2 weeks. You must have a license to join"!

Many BRs bought the game after playing on the full version using that "cracked serial", but it wanst really a cracked serial, because a friend of mine bought the game and saved the license on emules shared folder... Lol.

[mikko]

Yes diesel, negative thoughts aside. Let's think positively and concentrate on realizing this, because it would be very very important for the game and for the community. For dede, if this turns out to be successful, none in the community will consider you an idiot, on the contrary.

[dede]

For dede, if this turns out to be successful, none in the community will consider you an idiot, on the contrary.

Nah, I'm considering an idiot myself, dedicating 2-3 months to this project when I don't know THE FUTURE of this game.

[mikko]

Nah, I'm considering an idiot myself, dedicating 2-3 months to this project when I don't know THE FUTURE of this game.

You should consider it this way: Your 2-3 months of dedication for the project could make the future of the game.

[dede]

You should consider it this way: Your 2-3 months of dedication for the project could make the future of the game.

No, the new demo & the website will both together. Ande received money and will receive money with new version's features. If he doesn't think that it's necessary doing those mods to the demo mode, I don't think that the new centralized website it's helpful. I don't intend working for free if Ande and JGG aren't working in the same direction.

[mikko]

Well, if it really turns out to be the case that neither Ande nor JGG provides necessary assistance, we might need to reconsider the shift back to 0.86b and build a strong community there.

[wazaari]

or they can sell us 50% of the game....or ....!!
In that case we will be more motivated and game will improve a LOT!!!
(and also ande and jjg will earn more)

it is just an idea....

[Hengari]

Well, if it really turns out to be the case that neither Ande nor JGG provides necessary assistance, we might need to reconsider the shift back to 0.86b and build a strong community there.

Haha, 0.86b is still as playable as it was back then but I and many others who already have seen the betterness of 1.0 will never shift back to 0.86b.

[dede]

Well, if it really turns out to be the case that neither Ande nor JGG provides necessary assistance, we might need to reconsider the shift back to 0.86b and build a strong community there.

Actually there is another possibility..

[mikko]

Haha, 0.86b is still as playable as it was back then but I and many others who already have seen the betterness of 1.0 will never shift back to 0.86b.

Of course, this is not what I would like to see. 1.0 is better, no doubt, and many current license holders will not do the shift. But in addition to some license holders this might be an attractive choice for non-registered players, as 0.86b is free. This might lead to a bigger community than the current 1.0 community.

[Jeffrey]

Im' sure that Ande and his team will listen to what we are saying. Its a small game, but very addictive.


If we have 1. THE RIGHT DEMO
2. PROFESSIONAL CENTRAL WEBSITE
3. FULL SUPPORT FROM ANDE AND HIS TEAM
4. ONLINE NETWORK ADVERTISING


I'm sure that more and more people will buy the game. And will have a bigger community.

Lets think positive.

[mikko]

Well, if it really turns out to be the case that neither Ande nor JGG provides necessary assistance, we might need to reconsider the shift back to 0.86b and build a strong community there.

Actually there is another possibility..

Please, tell us.

[dede]

Yep, let's say that this project with me leader will continue only if Ande wants to build the new demo mode and little other things.

By the way, if someone wants to continue this project, feel free to do that. I will help, but I won't be the leader of course (not with these conditions).

[Anthony]

You need to sell to me what aspects of this site are going to help get more people to play/stay on Turbo Sliders?

[dede]

You need to sell to me what aspects of this site are going to help get more people to play/stay on Turbo Sliders?

Just read the features.

[Hengari]

You need to sell to me what aspects of this site are going to help get more people to play/stay on Turbo Sliders?

Sell to you?

That site would be to help new players to know what the game has to offer (showing the mods, cup info etc). And for drivers the site would provide information and statistic of cups and records and some guides for example how to make tracks/tiles and driving tips. Maybe some track database for browsing tracks and to download them.

The main idea is to get the information of what the game has to offer to one place that is easy to find and use.

[dragonstar]

I would like to remember to JGG and Ande that DEMO PLAYERS aren't knowing that:
- they can join cups
- there is a community
- there are game mods (thanks to punaball i sold something like 7 licenses)
- they can have much more than 30 tracks and cars
- they can race F1 cups or other types of cups

They could find those things also by reading about them from the site you planned. You never get interested in something by reading about it?

Nah, I'm considering an idiot myself, dedicating 2-3 months to this project when I don't know THE FUTURE of this game.

But Ande should do the new demo mode although no one knows for sure how it would affect the number of legally registered players? Also the future will surely be suckier without the site than with the site.

If he doesn't think that it's necessary doing those mods to the demo mode, I don't think that the new centralized website it's helpful.

Then you're just stupid.

I don't intend working for free if Ande and JGG aren't working in the same direction.

You really think that if JGG will pay someone to make the site, it would be you?

All together, it seems to me that if things don't go like you want them to, you just hand it over. You really thought that JGG would pay you, or Ande would modify the game like you want, as soon as you start building this site? I think you should have made a little bit backround work before rushing here and posting all those nice plans.

[mikko]

I must agree with dragonstar concerning his criticism to dede. Perhaps those who voted NO for his suitability for the leadership knew him better.