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Post by shyguy1001 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:46 pm

Tijny wrote:dede, have you considered reducing the fuel slowdown? Like this it's just a completely different car on a full tank, and last season there were sounds like "hmm this track is way too easy with high fuel" on more than one occasion, which is obviously not a nice thing to hear as the trackmaker.
In my opinion a value of like 12% would be better, so that driving with high fuel would at least be somewhat challenging and exciting. (this would obviously mean reducing the refuel time too)
I agree, I am also terrible at the car on high fuel :/ Great corners are turned into crap just because you are so much slower going round them, but there was hardly much of a change in strategy anyway!

So if you want to remove some fuel slowdown but keep the strategic element to make 2/3 stoppers viable, you would either have to make races longer or perhaps higher the fuel slowdown to the full 20%, but make that last nearly the whole race. There would be no way at that slowdown that that would be the fastest strategy, leading to people being more experimental in their strategy's. Of course in real life F1 a car can nearly go whole race distance on their fuel tanks (although they will have to be able to next year), but they never do this because there is no point because of how slow they will go.

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Post by Tijny » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:43 pm

shyguy1001 wrote:I agree, I am also terrible at the car on high fuel :/ Great corners are turned into crap just because you are so much slower going round them, but there was hardly much of a change in strategy anyway!

So if you want to remove some fuel slowdown but keep the strategic element to make 2/3 stoppers viable, you would either have to make races longer or perhaps higher the fuel slowdown to the full 20%, but make that last nearly the whole race. There would be no way at that slowdown that that would be the fastest strategy, leading to people being more experimental in their strategy's. Of course in real life F1 a car can nearly go whole race distance on their fuel tanks (although they will have to be able to next year), but they never do this because there is no point because of how slow they will go.
Ok, I may have messed up with my calculations somewhere, but the fact of the matter is that with a full tank and 15% slowdown the car is a nuisance to drive. I just can't think of any good solutions right now as the "problem" is a little more complicated than I first thought. However, having to qualify with an extremely boring car was one of the biggest annoyances of last season for me. It's just something to think about, we still have time to discuss this.

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Post by shyguy1001 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:24 pm

Well what im saying is put it even higher so you are ridiculously too slow on a full tank, and you are almost forced to do a two stopper. It would created diversity in strategys and could perhaps solve the problem of the boringness of qualifying and early in stints.

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Post by dede » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:15 pm

Tijny wrote:dede, have you considered reducing the fuel slowdown?
Since it's more like your league than mine, feel free to test new settings and announce them before the first test race. Anyway, I would like to keep the two strategies close to each others (it would be bad to have e.g. one pit strategy much faster than two pit strategy).

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Post by Pingu » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:29 pm

Yeah 1 stoppers and 2 stoppers should be rought the same in time...

otherwise everyone will do 2 stop instead of 1... it should be trivial for everyone

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Post by Whiplash » Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:37 am

reirom wrote:DEDE YOU DARE TO RUN WITH ME MAN?


DEDE AND REIROM SEEMS GOOD
Yeah, seems good and slow. :)
It would be like Raikonnen and Boduer. :P

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Post by misterpom » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:43 am

It would be a pleasure to play on the same team as you, Mike. I hope we can do it on this cup.

Does anyone know what is the record for those 2 tracks (Montrempi and Flamourt) with F1-Beta? I'd like to have a reference when I practice.

See you all there

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Post by Whiplash » Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:18 pm

misterpom wrote:Does anyone know what is the record for those 2 tracks (Montrempi and Flamourt) with F1-Beta? I'd like to have a reference when I practice.
Well, Janne has record on my PC On Flamourt track - we played 6 laps race :wink: ; it's 34.807. Good lap for Montrempi will be under 32.800 I guess (I got that time with only few laps practice, so obviously it can be much, much better). But don't worry about times. The most important thing is keeping constancy with just good laps. Don't be surprised if some players beat your top time every lap. There are many sick players. Of course, fuel is big factor for your good time too, so find the best strategy.

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Post by Janne » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:00 pm

misterpom wrote: Does anyone know what is the record for those 2 tracks (Montrempi and Flamourt) with F1-Beta? I'd like to have a reference when I practice.
From GPOR-season 7 (fuel on): http://www.gpor.it/Records

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Post by shyguy1001 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:37 pm

Janne wrote:
misterpom wrote: Does anyone know what is the record for those 2 tracks (Montrempi and Flamourt) with F1-Beta? I'd like to have a reference when I practice.
From GPOR-season 7 (fuel on): http://www.gpor.it/Records
Further underlines how much of a difference fuel makes, I just beat both recs with 8 laps no fuel practice ^_^

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Post by Tijny » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:07 pm

reirom wrote:Scileste [+] dede 0:29.954

ahauhua patetic record i run first time with this beta car and run at 31 s 1

wtf you guys am f*** slow


i could beat this easy i will beat

reirom>all


i dont fear anyone here

i win mike nike many times already

i want some challenger in gport server
Since dede said it is more like my league than his, I personally forbid you to join. Have a nice day.

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Post by shyguy1001 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:30 pm

Tijny wrote:
reirom wrote:Scileste [+] dede 0:29.954

ahauhua patetic record i run first time with this beta car and run at 31 s 1

wtf you guys am f*** slow


i could beat this easy i will beat

reirom>all


i dont fear anyone here

i win mike nike many times already

i want some challenger in gport server
Since dede said it is more like my league than his, I personally forbid you to join. Have a nice day.
I love you :P

In all seriousness, he sounds like the sort of people who would mess up the racing, as we saw with the first eisenstadt race with that person who was 3-4 seconds off the pace and killed etmils lead, or indeed iblaze blocking dede in the same race.

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Post by Tijny » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:12 pm

reirom wrote:what a moron tinjy

i played with mike nike and matic

i am almost matic level run first time this car.. not bad..

i can watch as spectador this cup?


i hope mike nike win

he break one of janne records..
It's not about how good you are or who you played with, it's about you being a disrespectful prick. And no, spectators won't be allowed. Seriously, take your head out of your ass and I might change my mind. (or then again not)

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Post by shyguy1001 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:28 pm

Question to whoever made a version "-l" track for the last F1 league: What are the settings on the grid? So how many pixels between each box, did you put the boxes in using the editor or photoshop?

Thanks :)

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Post by dede » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:32 pm

Nice job reirom, you managed to get excluded from the cup without even driving once. This league is about fairplay and it should be played in a friendly atmosphere. If any driver goes against this idea, he will simply get excluded from the league.

Maybe in the brazilian community you like to insult eachothers or do the other jokes you posted here. But here nobody knows you, so instead of being funny you just sound like an idiot.

Insulting Tijny, who basically is the guy that runs the league, doesn't sound a good idea either, if you are really interested in joining us.

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Post by Whiplash » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:19 pm

Please, let's just don't talk about punishment before we drive first test race.

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Post by Tijny » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:32 pm

dede wrote:Insulting Tijny, who basically is the guy that runs the league, doesn't sound a good idea either, if you are really interested in joining us.
Why not, he made my day :D
Whiplash wrote:Please, let's just don't talk about punishment before we drive first test race.
Please, we really don't need that kind of rotten apples in our league.
shyguy1001 wrote:Question to whoever made a version "-l" track for the last F1 league: What are the settings on the grid? So how many pixels between each box, did you put the boxes in using the editor or photoshop?

Thanks :)
Every starting position is about 50 pixels apart, with an additional 25 pixels between every row. I start by stroking the track path in Photoshop with a custom brush, so that I get something like this:

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I then cut out all the lines I don't need as you can see in the image. That leaves me with 20 "markers" on the track image, which makes it easy to place the grid tiles in the editor. When doing so, I have to be careful not to place them in the wrong order like I did with last season's final track. :P
Then, after opening the .trk file and scrolling down, you can see something similar to this:

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Which I then run through this script, which in turn produces all the starting positions and their rotations:

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Et voilà, there we have it!

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Post by misterpom » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:50 pm

I'm sorry Reirom was banned from the cup. I wish he could play this one with me since we usually play together.

Anyway, thanks Whiplash for the laptime references. :D

I'll practice as much as I can. Yesterday I played a bit with Mike and his best lap was like 0.1 or 0.2 better than mine in Montrempi. It's hard to get used to this car after playing with a different one for almost 2 years.

See you guys
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Post by dede » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:03 pm

Removed some crap from this topic.

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Post by Whiplash » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:22 am

Tijny wrote:
Whiplash wrote:Please, let's just don't talk about punishment before we drive first test race.
Please, we really don't need that kind of rotten apples in our league.

You will not find out stupid players if you saying them what they should not to do. Let them play and keep watching them. Otherwise, they could be nice only on test races. It always happens.
misterpom wrote:I'm sorry Reirom was banned from the cup.

Don't say it like that. Reirom should just come to test race, and be careful with big words in future. He will see all his mistakes on the battlefield.

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Post by reirom » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:56 am

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ok i dont have any other proof first time runnning in this car against dede that runs like 5000 laps or more in this track , i run like 50 laps only

and i made many mistakes i was leader in first lap, got lag etc

i think i can win dede..


i am not impressed

so this is the best slider man?


tsc tsc

sorry dede but you dont impressed me ...

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Post by Pingu » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:59 am

Whiplash wrote: You will not find out stupid players if you saying them what they should not to do. Let them play and keep watching them. Otherwise, they could be nice only on test races. It always happens.

Reirom should just come to test race, and be careful with big words in future. He will see all his mistakes on the battlefield.
You really have a double moral, if people you like get in trouble you try to defense them alot. When i made a mistake / fault whatever you want to call it you suddenly were on the side of the admins and try to get me in deeper trouble. Let the admins take care of this and just stay out of it. I certainly learned from the penalty i got from my mistakes.
Looking to those 2 posts above me i really don't get what Reirom is trying to say, and he act's quite strange. The point was.. if he thinks like this / have the moral like this during the race you are just asking for trouble.

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Post by Tijny » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:17 am

Whiplash wrote:You will not find out stupid players if you saying them what they should not to do. Let them play and keep watching them. Otherwise, they could be nice only on test races. It always happens.
Not sure what you're saying, but since I'm not one to be petty and he didn't insult the crap out of me like I thought he would, maybe you're right.

Reirom, I am willing to disregard your last 2 posts as you were understandably frustrated; you can try to prove yourself at the first test race IF and only if you say these exact words:
I'm sorry for being such a jerk, from now on I will treat everyone with the respect they deserve. Even though I'm obviously the best, I will be modest about it since nobody likes a sore winner. Thanks Tijny, for giving me a second chance; I promise I will behave better this time around.
But, annoy me or dede again and you're out so fast it'll make your head spin.

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Post by dede » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:17 am

reirom wrote:ok i dont have any other proof first time runnning in this car against dede that runs like 5000 laps or more in this track , i run like 50 laps only
Honestly I've never driven that track, so you got quite a fair pace comparison. You could expect about 0.5 faster laps from me, since I was in bed with laptop (I drive serious races from desktop pc with a different keyboard). If you really aim to beat me in the first test race, you should try to run under 32s constantly with no fuel.
Ah, and beating me wouldn't mean that you win the race, since I will probably finish outside the podium if people train for the test races :)

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