TurboSliders.com F1 League 2012 Edition

Post by **dede** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:39 pm

Afinfas wrote:BTW: Is there any Race Control where you can make appeals?

You can post your complaints to the forum or via PM to me.

Afinfas · Post by **Afinfas** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:42 pm

dede wrote:
Afinfas wrote:BTW: Is there any Race Control where you can make appeals?
You can post your complaints to the forum or via PM to me.

Nah, just wanted to know for future things! I know its hard to drive with many guys at same time and keep coolness and fairness!

Thanks!

Post by **Tijny** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:00 pm

Good race by me, just lacked a little bit of speed. ded0 overtook me in the first corner (TOTES ROUGH MORON F*** MAJOR PATETIC) and ran away by about 0.01sec/lap after that. At my second stop I decided to gamble a bit by stopping a lap earlier, and to my surprise I ended up in front of dede, but in the end I just couldn't bring it home. He overtook me at one point but decided to let me pass again even though I thought that move was more fair than the first lap overtake. Maybe he tried to make things more interesting for himself. Eventually he passed me again, so it didn't matter anyway.

Post by **dede** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:03 pm

Tijny wrote:He overtook me at one point but decided to let me pass again even though I thought that move was more fair than the first lap overtake.

Well, I was already a bit sorry for the first semi rough overtake, so the second semi-rough overtake convinced me to give way and make things fair again, in a certain way.

Warmup
Things didn't go well, I couldn't find the right braking points. I noticed that the pitlane was quick, so I planned a three stops strategy for the race.

Pre-Qualifying
Eheh, I felt fast. Not really perfect laps but I enjoyed setting up fastest time with 3 tenths gap on Tijny.

Qualifying
Mistakes here and there, no good laps. Second place made me very happy!

Race
Start was very good, Tijny always sleeps 0.01s more than me. I noticed that he was going a little wide on first curve so I decided try to overtake him and woha, it worked! A little rough though. Keeping first position would've been enough for me to win, since Tijny would've needed more fuel than me from pitting (4%). Everything worked well, but in last pit I somehow screwed up calculations: 40%-11% = 41% . Yeah nice.
I noticed that mistake as soon as I saw Tijny's car coming and passing me, while I was exiting pitlane. I thought: "ok, I lost". But then I thought: "hey, I got 10% more fuel than what I need, but he stopped a lap earlier so he got more worn tyres". I convinced myself that it was fair and battle could've been balanced, so I pushed and I started to put pressure on him. First attempt to pass him was a little rough, because I probably didn't give him time to notice my attack (he closed the door driving normal line). I decided to give the position back and try again later. And it worked! Wop!

Post by **Mike Nike** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:22 pm

warmup:
relativly high and fast changing serverdiff, feeling that, i tried adjusting soon. this actually should have given me a warning, but i ignored it.

prequali:
messed a likely low 51.x, but 51.49x felt already somewhat ok, sick lap by dede and nice performance by oompa

quali:
i changed startfuel +-5 times -.-...so i didnt really had a plan and came up with a new one every few seconds, stepping through considerable arguments...i was changing startfuel to higher amount, back to lower, back to higher...
startplace 6 was bad, considering i messed up last curve in 52.2 lap and drove a 52.1 in lap 2 or 3.

race:
right at start i forgot about the rules, if it is allowed to cross lines twice in the startstraight or not...so i just let 7th place pass and gave him as much space as he needed by driving a wide curve 1.

lap/curve:
1/1: like pingu said: frames dropped, in a bit ridicouless it makes me actually think i should drive with zoom 1.0 or higher just to reduce the early warpchaos (im not 100% sure though anymore if less carcollisions in a screen helps there, but depending on the gamecode, it should)
1/2: friendly wide driving + LOLwarps = etmil, scud pass - 9th place
1/3: it looked like i messed up scud somehow, so after letting him pass i was 11th
1/4: and 12th -.-
1/5+: LOLwarp with delux - he gone weird offroad, i had no idea if that happened due to me, but i was the closest car, so..i slowed down, 5 cars passed me...and i was still not sure if i have to wait for the very weirdly deep sanded delux or not - 19th place (at that point i was like hey, i like those races where you actually start last place and have to battle the field^^)
1/3rd last: 17th - gone offroad
2: +6.8 sec to 1st place, i kinda loled myself to 19th place, whatever that means^^, but thats what i wrote down at my paper when watching the replay

2/1: lema beefed xzeal

2/2: lema gone offroad, blocked me and i ended up offroad, so..back to 19th (xzeal gone offroad later though)
3: +9.8 sec behind
3/1: passed xzeal - or maybe he just let me pass
3/2: passed wokinger, 16th now
3/upper left: passed szy, 15th now. oh wait...szymek liked to beef me offroad (LOL), back to 16th
3/down left: szymek hold me up, xzeal passed me/let me keep in front again
3/last: szymek now looked like he would let me pass, but lol...still not, so i lost some again by cutting the corner.
4: +12.5sec behind (after 3 laps ffs)
4/2: failed overtaking xzeal
4/~middle: tried to escape from wokinger, cut corner way too close..but i came back 2 curves later, going side by side through a curve, but wokinger kinda sidepushed me into the grass. i think i got a little bit pissed there :/
5: +15.2 sec, 18th, xzeal let me pass, 17th..
6/2: failed passing wokinger, then i hold up xzeal (sry for that!)
7: PIT (lol, i hold down ctrl-key partly to not fill fuel. that was quite a fail, since i started the race with less fuel this time and i actually shouldnt hold it down at all. maybe i drove too much f1sl lol.
10: 17th, i hit xzeal and he drove so wide aside in a kind of steering that it looked like he was trying to say "i was gonna let you pass mike", so i gambled and kept driving with that interpretation. in either case: sry again, xzeal!
12: 21.9sec behind, 9th
16: i overtook scud in end of lap 15 but skipped to seriously defend my place on the startstraight. i was too friendly there maybe.
17/upper left: 7th, hev gone offroad early and scud let me overtake
17/down left: i made a mistake, scud then tried to overtake me outside and gone offroad. it felt like that was my fault, because i might have not let him enough space so i was prepared to let him pass, but decided to make just a semi-selfpunishment by driving a lap earlier to pits, so i wont block him another lap at least.
since the decision to go to pits were made on the run and i havent thought about how much fuel to fill anyway, i realized the LOLness at the moment i started to fill fuel. a little bit late

and instead of filling just way too much fuel (which i hate so much) i gone for just 22% and just gave a sh*t..and smiled "yeah, 22%..i guess thats not gonna be enough, mikey^^" - or maybe i told my pit crew to just leave me alone during the race, because "i know what im doing" xD
20: +36.7sec 10th
22: oompa let me pass after i lost a bit time behind him
24: 7th, PIT, filling +16% to 18%
26: +35.1sec 9th
27: whip gone offroad, me argh into him, he let me pass - 8th
28: 0.9sec behind scud
28/down left: i got the "disconnected?" message for a +-1 second and ended up in going offroad luckily by just a little bit.
29: 0.36sec behind scud
29: 2 smaller mistakes, curve 2 and middle part..
30: 0.47sec behind scud
30/3+: touching scuds car a little already
30/upper left: touching scud again with too much speed..
30/2nd last: lil touch again
30/last: scud cuts deeply through the grass in last lap last corner. i passed him and i dont know if it was warpy or just the heat of the moment - i could not see if it was my fault (the little touch in 2nd last curve) or not, so i thought i let him decide if it is ok that i get the 7th place and made a hard brake, but it was too late already, so i passed the line in front of him.

knowing this race would likely be a cut-result for me anyway, it could gain just a bit more LOLness if i get some sorta x sec punishment for next race. if, then i really prefer punishments for the last driven race anyway.

about the scene with szymek and wokinger. szymek was actually too rough to not get a punishment for that, maybe. so take this as complaint or maybe i have one good and dont let him pass in another race when i accidently beef szymek

wokingers scene wasnt that punishable, since he would have more likely kept his position. but the slowdown kinda nerved me.
well, and my good old friend xzeal has definately something good

well..in fear of having that curve 1 desaster again, i might probably just go for a ~40-50% fuel at next racestart in order to get likely at least place 4 and drive a line, where i cant easily lose too many places. and hopefully i dont forget to adjust serverdiff again (which i by the way didnt adjust during the whole race -.-).
there was so less time to actually calculate fuel or something anyway - thats why i prefer at least 1 very long straight or maybe 2. that road track was kinda nice lately, the one i missed - but locally i had an easy going calculating stuff in the upper long straight.

szymek66 · Post by **szymek66** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:09 pm

Hmmm, dunno about what exactly accident you are taling and I'm too lazy to watch replay. But if you noticed that was my fault, then I'm OK with any punishment.

Like in previous races, I was 12421904821091487569084690 times pissed off due to idjits which aren't braking. Then thought: "Hey, why don't you start be more roughy?". Unfortunately, seems I drove too roughy

SORRY MIKE!

Oompa · Post by **Oompa** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:24 pm

It was my first F1-League event, and it started badly. I thought we would race on a different track, but it wasn't to be. Then came some sort of race, and then some sort of qualifying. I thought I took third spot, but that was not to be as well. What to do with fuel proved to be an enigma, so I qualified with a full load.

Back in thirteenth spot I started, and was struggling for basically everything, found a flow after five laps, and saw nobody except Mike Nike, whom I overtook whilst he was pitting. Now, I know that Mike is a lot faster, but I managed to hold him off for two laps. I guess he was finding new grip, and as soon as he was on my tail, I let him pass. No use fighting a lost cause and lose precious seconds.

In the end I made two stops, but finished with too much fuel. I found that my concentration was way higher than normal, which allowed for few mistakes if any, sore fingers, and mental fatigue. This way, I gander this is one of the best games in the world, if not the best.

I tried not to touch anyone, but I guess the collisions were mild and nobody feels bad about them. As I said, pretty early on I was in a race of my own, which felt comfortable. As far as close racing is concerned, I feel bad about the lack of interest in Beefmobile. I sure hope that in some way we could fill the servers, so we could X-bump or fly more often.

What fun! Thanks.

pablinho15 · Post by **pablinho15** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:38 am

nice race guys.

xzeal · Post by **xzeal** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:29 am

Mike - half of those I was not letting you pass, I just suck. The other half - we are faster with me right behind you than me right in front of you.

That holding me up thingy - welcome to the bottom, if we payed as much attention to that as you do and went super-fairplay we would get lapped 3 or 4 times

.

I was 20.th in pre-qualy, which sounds nice as long as you dont mention the "out of 24" bit.

I went with 1 pitstop this time (fuel dropped to 0% when I went on the pitlane on lap 14). I found it hard to get used to the drastic changes in handling when your tyres go from 15 to 100 and fuel from 0 to 50. So I made a few mistakes after pit, got my speed up and then had an almost fight with Delux after he exited pits, a few mistakes due to tired/worn-tyres/concentration-lapses meant I dropped a few seconds behind him. Managed to climb closer slowly, but pushed too hard and started making mistakes again. Anyway 16.th - meh not my worst result so it will do I guess.

PS: what the hell is going on - 5 Estonians in the pro race? That is a new record. and I got beaten by 3 of them... sigh at least I am still better than them at punaball.

Post by **Tijny** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:45 am

xzeal wrote:Mike - half of those I was not letting you pass, I just suck. The other half - we are faster with me right behind you than me right in front of you.

That holding me up thingy - welcome to the bottom, if we payed as much attention to that as you do and went super-fairplay we would get lapped 3 or 4 times .

Yeah and also, I've had plenty of times (not yesterday, in general) that lapped people would try to let me pass nicely but ended up blocking me extra hard.

For example, they would go all the way to the outside to make room, but my ideal line is also on the outside -> boom! It's just hard to give way in those situations, especially since most of the time it's difficult enough to even see you're getting lapped.

Oompa · Post by **Oompa** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:54 am

Don't ever lap me, Tijny, or face my wrath. At least Mike is easily visible with his bright green car. I am not so sure if I can see yours

Lanz · Post by **Lanz** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:22 pm

well the real looser of that dede/tinky overtake was me, driving into a slow tinky and then cutting the following corner a bit, resulting in loosing 2 positions on guys with lower fuel loads! really struggled to get those positions back! in fact it took me almost half of the race to catch John, who showed a good pace! also hevenones was fast in 1st stint! after i finally passed John i was driving alone to the end! somehow after my last stop Emtilo was in front of me, couldnt explain to myself how that happened! sure he pitted way earlier then me i thought, so he´s on much older tires, but i gained only very less ground on every lap! then he pitted again and i realized that he´s on a 3 stopper! from then on i just cruised to the end to a nice podium again! once again a great track!

Post by **Tijny** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:01 pm

Oompa wrote:Don't ever lap me, Tijny, or face my wrath. At least Mike is easily visible with his bright green car. I am not so sure if I can see yours

I'm usually the guy right behind dede's Italian flag. Or sometimes a little further back when he's unstopped, the track doesn't suit me, I have gearbox problems, I get rapeth in the first corner, or when I'm simply patetic.

Oompa · Post by **Oompa** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:09 pm

Tijny wrote:
Oompa wrote:Don't ever lap me, Tijny, or face my wrath. At least Mike is easily visible with his bright green car. I am not so sure if I can see yours
I'm usually the guy right behind dede's Italian flag. Or sometimes a little further back when he's unstopped, the track doesn't suit me, I have gearbox problems, I get rapeth in the first corner, or when I'm simply patetic.

Turbo Sliders vocabulary should have its own publicized dictionary.

Etmil · Post by **Etmil** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:50 pm

Oompa wrote:
Tijny wrote:
Oompa wrote:Don't ever lap me, Tijny, or face my wrath. At least Mike is easily visible with his bright green car. I am not so sure if I can see yours
I'm usually the guy right behind dede's Italian flag. Or sometimes a little further back when he's unstopped, the track doesn't suit me, I have gearbox problems, I get rapeth in the first corner, or when I'm simply patetic.
Turbo Sliders vocabulary should have its own publicized dictionary.

I wholeheartedly agree with you!

Scud · Post by **Scud** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:57 pm

Can someone link race replay, pls.. I beg you.

Post by **dede** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:25 pm

Scud wrote:Can someone link race replay, pls.. I beg you.

I'll update everything tomorrow night!

Wokinger · Post by **Wokinger** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:51 pm

Mike Nike wrote:4/~middle: tried to escape from wokinger, cut corner way too close..but i came back 2 curves later, going side by side through a curve, but wokinger kinda sidepushed me into the grass. i think i got a little bit pissed there :/

wokingers scene wasnt that punishable, since he would have more likely kept his position. but the slowdown kinda nerved me.

Well.. I had little lag there (there were so many in race, so for me it wasn't nothing special) and didn't know if you cut corner by yourself or I helped you. Anyway I should have turned a bit later in that corner, so you had more space there, but I thought that you would have braked there due to bad entryline, so sry.

However I watched first laps and I'm disappointed.. Pingu beefed me.. It's so sad..

And now seriously: what does Kuningas do in F1 League? He's driving so rough and using other drivers to brake! Maybe, he should start in rookie until he improves his racing skill. The same Mrtn, who just beefed me after I overtook him..

Etmil · Post by **Etmil** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:33 pm

Wokinger wrote:And now seriously: what does Kuningas do in F1 League? He's driving so rough and using other drivers to brake! Maybe, he should start in rookie until he improves his racing skill. The same Mrtn, who just beefed me after I overtook him..

I agree, they're quite a trouble to drive with.

Pingu · Post by **Pingu** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:01 pm

Wokinger wrote:
However I watched first laps and I'm disappointed.. Pingu beefed me.. It's so sad..

Actually I dont know if its even worth it to respond to a comment like this, or you must be joking. You make it sound like i did it on purpose, first of all your line was bad second of all you bumped kuningas and slowed down due to that, third of all that first lap I drove on like 15 fps, 4th of all you only had avantage from it, 5th of all i had to look back the first few laps to even see what incident it could be, 6th of all i couldn't have done anything, like really nothing about it. It was nothing... whatever. Mike had a point but you are always a joker as usual.

Scud · Post by **Scud** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:26 pm

Etmil wrote:
Wokinger wrote:And now seriously: what does Kuningas do in F1 League? He's driving so rough and using other drivers to brake! Maybe, he should start in rookie until he improves his racing skill. The same Mrtn, who just beefed me after I overtook him..
I agree, they're quite a trouble to drive with.

We need some sort of referees to keep racing more clean. Drive trough, stop and go or even more severe penalties for rough racers.

Post by **Whiplash** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:44 pm

Scud wrote:We need some sort of referees to keep racing more clean. Drive trough, stop and go or even more severe penalties for rough racers.

Stop and go not possible. I prefer +10 (or more) secs on his race time for every push or block, except if player give you a way during the race.

Wokinger · Post by **Wokinger** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:35 pm

Wokinger wrote:However I watched first laps and I'm disappointed.. Pingu beefed me.. It's so sad..

And now seriously[...]

Pingu wrote:Actually I dont know if its even worth it to respond to a comment like this, or you must be joking[..]

You're right!

Post by **dede** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:41 am

Guys, I just don't like to read complaints between eachothers after every race. You can complain about something in particular -> you post EXACT details about your accident -> I watch -> punishment will come if considered against the rules.

If you don't follow those instructions, then just DO NOT complain. And if in next race you decide to go rough as well to have a revenge on somebody, the "but he did the same to me in race #1"-excuse won't save you from penalties.

Post by **Mike Nike** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:02 am

in 1st post of thread, maybe add a link to fair play rules (for new drivers important) and maybe some sort of overview about the likely punishments of somewhat common incidents.

after Race you could add something like:

Post Race Complaints
Send complaints via pm or post it visible in this thread:

bad:
early in the race some violet car f***ed my race!
and then in the pits some IDIOT pushed me!

good:
Complaint(s):
1) lap 3, curve 4, REIROM2.0 pushed me offroad and did not let me pass
2) lap 8/9, pits: [COL]SirBeef pushed me while i filled fuel