Formula 1 World Championship #1

[power79]

I updated Top-3 video for current standings.
Circly_Top3.tsr
Tinjowitsu-san 1:30.908
[x] Mike Nike 1:31.168
[+] Badeend 1:31.281

[Mike Nike]

ty power!
driving a safe last curve has cost me a lot, it seems
...lot of different and unoptimized curves for me in that lap.

edit:
meh, an 1.34.454 opening lap (with a yammy middle part) with 2 not so good curves and a 1.31.050 (with strong first 3 parts), sliding offroad in the middle late part and a wide 2nd last curve...maybe 3rd last curve wasnt that good either. i kinda hope to see that lap in comparison, on the other hand, if my bones dont hurt too much, i might go for another try this evening.

[Tijny]

I updated Top-3 video for current standings.
Circly_Top3.tsr
Tinjowitsu-san 1:30.908
[x] Mike Nike 1:31.168
[+] Badeend 1:31.281

Great, I love these comparison videos!

How hard would it be to do to put more RaceState messages in these videos besides the initial one, so that we could skip ahead if we wanted? It would also look nicer if the laptimes showed up in the end. Not really all that important though, don't break your neck trying to implement this.

[power79]

Last(?) update for Top-3 Circly video.
Circly_Top3.tsr
Tinjowitsu-san 1:30.908
[x] Mike Nike 1:31.050
[+] Badeend 1:31.133

Now you can skip ahead in the video(RaceState messages added). Also lap time information should update correctly now, but there won't be "chat" messages for fastest lap.

[Mike Nike]

Hah, nice
Seems i also messed up the last curve again a bit^^. Rare case i mess up the 2nd last curve like that, though..
So, laprecord seemed quite possible there, being in lead at the middle bridge and even somewhat equal in the end, still..

Practice Race Test for next Race (update): (might be useful for some drivers in order to know fuel or pace for next race)
1st blind try: 1:01:34.730 (39 laps, 95% startfuel, ending with 7.75%, 2xpit -> 13/13/13 stints, FL: 1:32.4xy)
crahs: 1 (4 seconds lost entering pits)
Update (2nd try, on cold fingers): 1:01:15.270 (39 laps, 88% startfuel, ending with 0.25%, 1xpit -> 19/20 stints, FL: 1.32.590)
crashs: 0 (no times offroad, just a lot of safety gas release and few semi wide curves)
I lost maybe around 2ish seconds in the beginning, being really slow due to not being used to the slowed down car and later did a couple laps losing 1 sec and a few being 0.7sec ish off pace.
Still an okayish result though. But scary 30 seconds on 0.x% fuel -> 87.75% fuel consumption instead of 87.25%. If my race pace is more than 11/12 sec slower, i will probably run out of fuel^^

[Badeend]

Okay, race stats:

http://lvp-ts.com/races/detail/2979/

Congrats to Tinjo!

[Whiplash]

Stats are updated and video is uploaded. Notice that best 2 races are counted now (overall best 8 out of 9 will be counted), so that stats show more relevant situation. I'll give my comments after I watch the replay.
So far I can say that all drivers with more than 5% damage will be under investigation.

NOTICE: You should all select your nationality and your in-game nick(s) in your website's homepage profile. That will make our standings to look more beautiful.

[Whiplash]

power79, now I need your tool to recognize contacts between drivers. It can be like:
Tijny 0
Mike 2, lap 1 vs Badeend (3%), lap 13 vs Badeend (2%)
etc.
I'm not sure if you can read all these info, but at least do your best. This will allow me better preview of everybody's action.

[Mike Nike]

Link to Qualification (Race 4):

http://lvp-ts.com/laptimes/?track=4K_Wh ... er=server3

Lap Record (1.19.144):

Curve: Degree [~lost time to already better driven curve/part]
Curve 1: A+ (~top5 of already driven fast curves) (+0.01)
Curve 2: A+ (top5) (+0.01)
Curve 3: A-/B+ (+0.04) -> i thought i messed up the lap here already
Midpart: B+ (+0.06) -> messed up, i thought...but it was supposed to be the last lap, last race for me that day
Curve 5: A+ (top5) (+0.02)
Curve 6: A+ (top3) (+0.005)

Sum: +0.145 -> ~1.18.999 reachable so far. (not that i would reach it though)

[power79]

Race Stats:
Race Stats(Circly)
Start reaction time shows that Whiplash would have made a false start but looking at the video that is not the case, so there's an error in stats.

Damage Report for Whiplash:
Damage Report(Circly)
Probably not error proof, but should somewhat help to locate collisions. Under 1.0% damage not included.

You can all watch my first lap for laughs, end of it is specially funny. Needles to say I have no motivation to try reach good qualification positions anymore. I just drive few laps and then join Division 2 races for more fun/relaxing racing. I guess I am just not able to race against others because this is more or less what happens every time.

[Mike Nike]

Damage / lap (Collisions)
1. [x] Whiplash 0.01% ( 0)

Chuck Norris does not get damaged, when he collides.
Whip even gets damaged without colliding!

The 0.01% is his mental damage from all the pre race drama, organizing after the script chaos!

19. Magnam 2.06% (27)
-> 27 collisions? Magnam in FCC mode??


Fuel Consumption / min

Seems i moved from mister ECO to mister ANTI ECO? I'm more constant fast that way though, i think.

I started to slow down (running out of fuel) close before the finish.
If i would not have driven offroad, like Tijny did in the same curve (thx to my slipstream maybe, although the stats kinda say it wasnt, unless it was 1-9% draft), i would have made it in 1st place, but the "all or nothing" mode was on again ...instead of the "im closing all doors and HODOR like crazy"-strategy.

@ lapped cars (i.e. Carlos):
Although i got blocked by 2 lapped cars in the end, giving Tijny the opportunity to get closer to me sooner, i wanna say big THX to all the lapped cars making space more friendly than ever so far. There was a decent fight for 1st going on and every saved bunch of a second was needed here!


Offroad Time / lap:
i think i was not really offroad once the whole race, until the last lap, trying to escape Tijny in order to keep enough space between me and him, so he won't catch my on the very last straight. Unfortunately the same happened, like in the pre season test race: i drove offroad. Tijny too, so in next curve i did the same AAAAAND drove offroad AGAIN!

Race:
With a strong ish 1st/3rd of the race vs an unwarmedup Tijny on higher fuel, i had a slightly better pressure handling this time, but it still sucked enough to let me catch again! Also my pace went quite off, not "seeing" my hunters anymore after 33% of the race.
Anyways, well deserved win for Tijny again. I'm happy i had a nice first part, being able to challenge for the win.
Big LOL again to Badeend, who had a nice pace again as well, but ended up crashing at least 2 times.

Qualification:
Nice to see i could get close to Tijnys pole lap here, basicly feeling able to beat it, driving a bunch of .0 laps and 2-3 .9 laps. Also impressive: the 9min10.9 6 lap totalracetime (T: 9min11.7) and an 1min34.45x opening lap.

Practice Races:
T: 61min02ish i think it was..(trying to smash away my 61min34, which i did on my 1st try)
M: 61min13ish (2 tries only)

Average Pitting Time
Impressive Carlos again!
And only 3 players on a 1-stopper...

Received Draft:
Papi and WILL just splipstream the whole race!
I actually wanted to take a strategy, so i can drive a lot with free space and avoid traffic, either battling or lapping....and not do things like Wokinger and power -> drafting offroad, which i did last race when trying to lap Astunce. Also i wanted to avoid the damage-thingy. 18th place (top3 in staying out of draft trouble) -> im happy with that, although of course in the best case you lap cars with draft on the straight

[Carlos Sainz Jr]

Fun race, even tho I never liked this track so much I reached my best final position of the tournament til now. Cool fights with Will (that brainlag in the end made him overtook me, he got his revenge from the first track haha), Laf, Magnam, Wokinger and Gol V8; I can say by far that Top 3 are like Mercedes, then Whippe, Oompa, Jormeli and probably Palo with Ferrari and Red Bull, and in the end the people i fought with are like Force India, Williams and Toro Rosso (so I chose a valid nickname ). Oh, almost forgot: King of Pits is here.

Mike, did you finish without fuel? Isn't your speed supposed to decrease when you reach 0%? EDIT: you already answered :p

Thank you for your stats Power, and I'm sorry for your race 'cause I noticed what happened to you :S

[power79]

Damage / lap (Collisions)
1. [x] Whiplash 0.01% ( 0)

Chuck Norris does not get damaged, when he collides.
Whip even gets damaged without colliding!

The 0.01% is his mental damage from all the pre race drama, organizing after the script chaos!

All damage is added to total but for it to count as collision, caused damage must be at least 1%.

Offroad Time / lap:
i think i was not really offroad once the whole race, until the last lap, trying to escape Tijny in order to keep enough space between me and him, so he won't catch my on the very last straight. Unfortunately the same happened, like in the pre season test race: i drove offroad. Tijny too, so in next curve i did the same AAAAAND drove offroad AGAIN!

Everyone has big offroad numbers that indicates probably corner cutting as those are also counted as offroad driving.

[Will]

You can all watch my first lap for laughs, end of it is specially funny. Needles to say I have no motivation to try reach good qualification positions anymore. I just drive few laps and then join Division 2 races for more fun/relaxing racing. I guess I am just not able to race against others because this is more or less what happens every time.

My God. Watching the replay, I couldn't stop laughing and feel bad at the same time. Poor driving by some there. At the end of the lap I was thinking "that was an unlucky lap" and changed to another player, just to hear a loud 'bang' somewhere, and when i got back to Power he was on 49% We ended up together at the back of the grid when i lost connection and got to greet a tree.
A lot of work for the stewards, thank god the statistics that shows the collisions.
Since this was the 1st race with damage, i believe many players were caught by surprise, and , hopefully, they will be more careful next time.

[Whiplash]

Oh, great job power79! Damn, I didn't expect the list to be so long - f*** amateurs!

I wonder why you (power79) didn't visit the pit right in the second lap. There was no sense to keep driving damaged like that. And you would avoid further traffic that way. And, I understand your frustration, you gained all damage by others' fault. They'll all get punished by moving back +x positions on start of next race. I just need to check details.

Will was driving like a ninja trough all those kamikazes, even moving out of perfect line to avoid others' faults.

And, Mike, I actually did have tiny contact with Jormelion accidentally. But the rest of our racing was pretty nice and clean. But, yeah, pre-race damage could be counted too.

[Tijny]

Great battle, Mike! You really pushed me to the limit again — I was struggling to find my rhythm early on, but my third stint pace felt extraordinary, and I needed every last bit of it. A shame that you had some slight issues with traffic near the end of the race which made it easier for me to catch you, but I had a few minor incidents earlier on as well.

Still, I felt like you had every opportunity to win even halfway into the last lap. In the big left-left-right combination you closed the door nicely, I had to slam the brakes in order to avoid bumping into you, resulting in a bad line through there and at that point I was pretty sure my race was over. That's why I went into all-or-nothing kamikaze 神風 mode, because it was the only way to have a chance, or so I thought. I hurled myself into the grass, but Mike decided to do the same thing, twice? I'm not sure I want presents like that, but I will take it anyway!

You can all watch my first lap for laughs, end of it is specially funny. Needles to say I have no motivation to try reach good qualification positions anymore. I just drive few laps and then join Division 2 races for more fun/relaxing racing. I guess I am just not able to race against others because this is more or less what happens every time.

It breaks my heart just to read this, I don't think I can bear to watch your first laps because it would just be too depressing.

[Carlos Sainz Jr]

T upload your webpage please

Oh, great job power79! Damn, I didn't expect the list to be so long - f*** amateurs!

That's cause in the middle of the group is really hard to avoid every type of contact, even a slight touch to the rear costs 1.5% kinda. I brake a lot and made weird direction lines tryin to avoid everything possible but I still had 13 contacts lol (well, half of them when i was pretty faster cause of tyres and my curves were defo better but Magny/Jurgen didn't leave space :p).

Btw am I the only one who notices Whippe's false start? XD

[power79]

I wonder why you (power79) didn't visit the pit right in the second lap. There was no sense to keep driving damaged like that. And you would avoid further traffic that way. And, I understand your frustration, you gained all damage by others' fault. They'll all get punished by moving back +x positions on start of next race. I just need to check details.

I didn't know how much the damage would effect. And I think I was too disoriented by my concussions to even find the pit at that point.
I don't blame anyone for that lap. Wokinger gave position back when he slightly pushed me offroad and other ones were just small damages that I could have handled. I lost most positions by my own mistakes. It's just that because I brake to most corners earlier than others that it just invites everyone to attack from the sides and eventually forcing me to bad driving lines. And I don't know how to counter that.
So my conclusion is that because I don't and never will survive those early traffic jams there's no point to spend hours for getting good lap in qualification and then couple more hours to race simulations. I just get out of the away and drive the div2 races without pressure.

[Oompa]

I passed Tinjo and Badeend at some point, and figured out that they coast until they see fit to brake. I brake so early they nearly crashed into me. Seems brake is not much more than an adjustment. Seems you lock into the best possible line, then brake to stay on it. My early braking takes the speed out of the car, and coasting gives more relaxation I noticed. I let them both go, this isn't FC (which I regret), and squabbling over positions with people who am 1 second faster than me only serves my battered ego. I have never been the fastest on pure speed, one of the best weapons is other people fighting, and this is kind of a meek venture. I hope when people get used to the car it will be more messy.

When Whip made a mistake and fell behind Jormeli and myself, I overtook the latter immediately because I suspected Whip would be coming for us. I pulled a sizable gap, but then while braking for the third turn I hit the sand on the outside and was royally fucked. Then I settled for six, made nice laps and tried to learn as much as possible. Whip Jormeli and me are team it seems, like the guys in F-Zero X who always stay with you no matter where you go.

Really loved the f*** up with the script. I know it's not how it was supposed to work, but don't sweat it. Thanks for that. Thanks for the scripts anyhow. Much improvements to game.

[Will]

It's just that because I brake to most corners earlier than others that it just invites everyone to attack from the sides and eventually forcing me to bad driving lines.

That's a vicious circle, you brake later to avoid being rammed, but by doing that, you can't escape the 'attacker'.

[Oompa]

I saw your struggle Power. You were very busy with the others. Ignore them, it's also up to them to avoid you and concentrate on your lines, then they can't really hit you. Some drivers very much lunge into corners. Drive those into the wall.

[Mike Nike]

I did a "first lap" investigation, being curious how everyone performed:

Carlos vs Will in lap 1 2nd last curve, last curve and 1st curve of lap 2 -> beautiful. That's what im talkin about, giving each other the space in side to side in curves.

--- Alexander Wurz' dive in curvecombination 2 in lap 1. Imo worth a punishment.

-- Magnam diving a bit risky there in start of curvecombi 2 in lap 1, in the end also pushing unnecessarily. In lap 2 in start of combi 2 he dives deeply and sidepushs Gol -> i need Whippe word here, because i dont know if Gol should have made space in this situation or if the dive was a bit too heavy in a way that Magnam should not expect Gol to "jump aside" of Magnams kamikaze dive.

-- Waza not giving space to the maybe too risky diving Carlos in lap 1, start of curvecombi 2, mid of lap he pushs Will twice, causing damage unnecessarily.

--- Astunce slightly looking a bit pushy early in lap 1. In 2nd last curve he dive-sidebumps into power79 in a way i think it deserves a punishment as well, considering he did not give position back.

++ Will wins my lap 1 fairness award for being "in the mess", but still giving space like a pro, driving fair lines etc., respect to that! I just can only recommend to watch his lap (including 1st curve combi of lap 2). He vs Carlos in 3 curves. Great side to side driving, well done both of you!!

- Wokinger having slight troubles early on in lap 1, later pushs power79 offroad, but gives immediately position back, costing him +-3 positions.

+ Laf loses 2 positions due to a push by Gol.

+ Oompa: thumbs up for chasing Jormeli patiently and finally ending up overtaking in lap 4ish.

--- Gol pushdamaged power79 twice, but his 2nd push vs Laf resulted into overtaking him, causing Laf to lose 2 positions. Although Laf's line wasnt really strong in that curve, i think Gol still should have to pay for it, needing to let him pass again. Imo worth a punishment.

- Jurgen: a damagepush vs power79 and a slide side to side contact when trying to overtake him after the bridge. It is really tough to say here, if a sidebump resulting into power going offroad would have been Jurgens or powers fault. It turned out to be a tie, kinda.

o power79: ech...all the bad luck, Wokinger and Astunce, going offroad by yourself as well. As if that was not enough yet, you do a "jaw"-droppin massive damage crash (76% to 49% energy) on the main straight.


Edit:
I saw Tijny once getting blocked before the bridge, early on the straight. The lapped car was trying to move off the ideal line, instead letting Tijny draft-overtake him. It ended up that both drove left at the same time. I forgot who it was and in which lap, but either he should drive earlier to the left side or just keep his line to let the car behind draft-overtake him and maybe slowdown when side to side a bit, so the overtaking car does not lose time in the upcoming curve.

[Alexander Wurz]

--- Alexander Wurz' dive in curvecombination 2 in lap 1. Imo worth a punishment.
Edit:
I saw Tijny once getting blocked before the bridge, early on the straight. The lapped car was trying to move off the ideal line, instead letting Tijny draft-overtake him. It ended up that both drove left at the same time. I forgot who it was and in which lap, but either he should drive earlier to the left side or just keep his line to let the car behind draft-overtake him and maybe slowdown when side to side a bit, so the overtaking car does not lose time in the upcoming curve.

I didn't even take ANY sort of advantage from that move. I don't know what do you want to punish.

It was me and it was my mistake. Asked T sorry at the end of the race,

[Mike Nike]

An easily avoidable push causes damage to the pushed car, doesn't it? Although it also damages your own car, i thought it might be worth a punishment anyway, in case the loss of energy causes the pushed car(s) to drive slower laptimes in the upcoming laps, for example. I haven't really checked the damage settings yet, so i don't know if there is a slowdown at +-90% yet and if, how big it is.

[Alexander Wurz]

Division2 was funny as hell. ahahahha