Formula 1 World Championship #1

[ftroncoso]

Division2 was funny as hell. ahahahha

YES!!! P1!!! \o/

[Badeend]

Race stats of the divison 2 race:

http://lvp-ts.com/races/detail/3078/

[Whiplash]

Yeah, I enjoyed watching Division 2 race a lot. Nice fair play and congrats to ftronic!

P.S.
Stats are updated and video is uploaded.

[power79]

Race Stats:
Race Stats(Circly_Div2)
End Fuel shows fuel at the end of last finished lap. That's why lema's end fuel is not 0%. Seems lema drives with the wrong style (keeps acceleration down all the time). Unfortunately even 100% fuel only lasts for 60 minutes with that style.

Damage Report for Whiplash:
Damage Report(Circly_Div2)

[Carlos Sainz Jr]

Yeah, me and Will had a good fight after few kms and we also had a thriller ending during last laps (I think it already started when Mike and Tinjo were about to overtake us haha). I like to fight against him cause there's fairplay and I enjoy it a lot, even cause I think we have similar driving styles since everytime we both lose some positions tryin to avoid all kamikazes in the middle of the group so we need to do strong comebacks throughout the race. We also had an intense battle two tracks ago, even tho that one was more a war of nerves cause of some distance between us (around 2-3 secs), but it also had its thriller ending . So yeah, I hope he feels the same when he races against me :p

[ftroncoso]

Race Stats:
Race Stats(Circly_Div2)
End Fuel shows fuel at the end of last finished lap. That's why lema's end fuel is not 0%. Seems lema drives with the wrong style (keeps acceleration down all the time). Unfortunately even 100% fuel only lasts for 60 minutes with that style.

Damage Report for Whiplash:
Damage Report(Circly_Div2)

These stats are awesome!!!

[wazaari]

Hey,
Could someone explain to me how much damage affects performance?
Because it is very difficult to decide if and when to repair it


Thx

[wazaari]

--- Alexander Wurz' dive in curvecombination 2 in lap 1. Imo worth a punishment.
Edit:
I saw Tijny once getting blocked before the bridge, early on the straight. The lapped car was trying to move off the ideal line, instead letting Tijny draft-overtake him. It ended up that both drove left at the same time. I forgot who it was and in which lap, but either he should drive earlier to the left side or just keep his line to let the car behind draft-overtake him and maybe slowdown when side to side a bit, so the overtaking car does not lose time in the upcoming curve.

I didn't even take ANY sort of advantage from that move. I don't know what do you want to punish.

It was me and it was my mistake. Asked T sorry at the end of the race,

But you caused a damage to my car.
Your line was totally insane, because there was 0% possibility of not hitting someone.

I was forced to pit very early and I had to totally change my plan.

[Whiplash]

Hey,
Could someone explain to me how much damage affects performance?
Because it is very difficult to decide if and when to repair it

Damage influences your dowforce, which means it affects the fast turns mostly. 0% of energy means 70% worst downforce.
How your overall performance will be affected depends on many things (type of track, tyres and fuel status, your skill etc.). But I can generally say that 80-90% of energy is an already significant damage and a driver should consider getting to pit as soon as possible, or plan a different strategy with an earlier next pit stop.
But, you can test all that directly in LVP5 server anytime.

[power79]

Top-3 Comparison video:
Elemterekejfe_Top3.tsr
Seems certain that improvements will be made.

[Mike Nike]

Nice!
Curve/Car Length lead (Mike vs Tijny)/car length won by Mike:
start 0.0
0/1 -0.5/-0.5(wow, shame on me for kinda losing so much already)
1/2 1.3/+1.8 (T missing the apex)
2/3 1.2/-0.1
3/mid 0.5/-0.7
mid/5 -1.25/-1.75 (bah me)
5/6 1.15/+2.3 (T missing the apex)
end 0.4/-0.75

0.4 car length lead on the start straight seems to be 0.029s, but at the other parts a car length might not be 0.0725s "worth". Actually, until today i used to calculate with around 0.05s per car length for some reason.
Anyways, if one car length would be average around 0.05s worth, we'd get:

1.19.144(-0.5-0.1-0.7-1.75-0.75)*0.05
= 1.19.144-3.8*0.05
= 1.18.954 (which is pretty much similar to what i felt i can reach with driving all my curves like i did in best cases before already, saving 0.01 0.01 and 0.02 ish or more in 3 different curves till last 1.18.999 calculation)

1.18.869 ish if 0.05 would be 0.0725 instead.

But actually driving this lap is another story
Also i seem to f*** up laps which start with strong first 2 or 3 curves and might end up driving a safe last curve.
While if my first 3 curves feel suboptimal, i kick my a** trying to "rescue"/save the lap to a fast one. That's how both of my 1.19.1xy laps were produced. A few .2 laps i actually drove while not realizing i was that fast.
And funny but true: i drove some 1.19.8ish laps and even a 1.20.0 lap i wasnt sure if they were fast, but were at least 0.5sec slower than what i hoped. Funny how a few little mistakes, you think might not be big, are actually pretty cruical in this track.

[Tijny]

Interesting, it looks like Mike is faster through all the hairpins, and I am faster in all the other parts even though I went offroad somewhat badly in the fast middle section, which cost me a bit of time.

Mike, I will make you happy with some maths now. Looking at the car's image and scale, we know that one car length is 37/2.25 = 16.4 track units. How much this is in time depends of course on the car's speed; on the long straights the car will be travelling close to 300 units/second, while in the slow hairpins it slows down to around 70 units/second.

Because time = distance / speed, our formula to calculate the time to cover one car length is
f(speed) = (37/2.25)/speed. Plugging this in for a few values:

f(70) = 0.23 s
f(200) = 0.082 s
f(300) = 0.055 s

So, one car length corresponds to anywhere from 0.2+ seconds in the slow hairpins to 0.08 seconds in medium-fast sections to around 0.05 seconds at maximum speed.

[Mike Nike]

Ah, nice
For the more or less accurate car length values i only used my eyes, each at the end of a "straight" before slowing down for corners/curves - and at the finishline. So, probably most will be in the 0.055-0.06s area, maybe. 1.18.916 would be the result for an average 0.06 factor, in case my eyes were not totally out of work.

Still, although the pole challenge and just producing nice lap makes fun, i kinda hope, i do not have to improve anymore
My similar tough challenge might actually be to be awake before sunday 23 CET. So: likely way less warmup for me this time.

Practice test race (3 stopper lol):
62min02 superslow (no crashs, but a few wiiide curves and a last stint with ultimate ridiculous fuel saving), starting with 90% fuel, kinda needed 91%, was amused about how much fuel i could save by actually not driving THAT much slower. Though once i had to drive over 2 sec slower per lap. I ended up running out of fuel, so my car stopped just a few car length after the finish line^^

[power79]

Edit: Maybe better way is just simply use checkpoints before braking points, so I removed previous data.
Here are checkpoint results:

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Checkpoint 1
Tinjowitsu-san 
[+] Badeend     +0.015   
[x] Mike Nike   +0.032   

Checkpoint 2
[x] Mike Nike  
[+] Badeend     +0.091   
Tinjowitsu-san  +0.092   

Checkpoint 3
[x] Mike Nike  
Tinjowitsu-san  +0.074   
[+] Badeend     +0.141   

Checkpoint 4
[x] Mike Nike  
Tinjowitsu-san  +0.038   
[+] Badeend     +0.123   

Checkpoint 5
Tinjowitsu-san 
[x] Mike Nike   +0.066   
[+] Badeend     +0.113   

Checkpoint 6
[x] Mike Nike  
Tinjowitsu-san  +0.067   
[+] Badeend     +0.196   

So if I calculated correctly you guys should aim at least to: 18:916


And picture that shows checkpoints:

[ftroncoso]

Edit: Maybe better way is just simply use checkpoints before braking points, so I removed previous data.
Here are checkpoint results:

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Checkpoint 1
Tinjowitsu-san 
[+] Badeend     +0.015   
[x] Mike Nike   +0.032   

Checkpoint 2
[x] Mike Nike  
[+] Badeend     +0.091   
Tinjowitsu-san  +0.092   

Checkpoint 3
[x] Mike Nike  
Tinjowitsu-san  +0.074   
[+] Badeend     +0.141   

Checkpoint 4
[x] Mike Nike  
Tinjowitsu-san  +0.038   
[+] Badeend     +0.123   

Checkpoint 5
Tinjowitsu-san 
[x] Mike Nike   +0.066   
[+] Badeend     +0.113   

Checkpoint 6
[x] Mike Nike  
Tinjowitsu-san  +0.067   
[+] Badeend     +0.196   

So if I calculated correctly you guys should aim at least to: 18:916


And picture that shows checkpoints:

Any chance to follow through your own sector times?

[Whiplash]

OK, this is the report of the whole Division 1 race non-fairplay moments. All the non-fair drivers names are written on the right side.

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LAP 1: ***************************************************************
[$pectre]Jaw$   <----> Enrico Papi      (10,7%) TimeStamp:     1.640 x
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Laf              ( 2,3%) TimeStamp:     8.580 x
Luca Badoer     <----> Astunce          ( 5,9%) TimeStamp:     8.920 Astunce
Luca Badoer     <----> Astunce          ( 1,4%) TimeStamp:    12.740 Astunce
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Laf              ( 4,0%) TimeStamp:    16.960 x
power79         <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,6%) TimeStamp:    17.580 TDi_Gol_v8
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 4,2%) TimeStamp:    19.100 Carlos Sainz Jr
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Magnam           ( 1,7%) TimeStamp:    19.540 [SL] Wokinger
Magnam          <----> power79          ( 2,1%) TimeStamp:    21.920 Magnam
Ippon-Wazaari   <----> Alexander Wurz   ( 6,4%) TimeStamp:    23.060 Alexander Wurz
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 4,8%) TimeStamp:    24.280 Carlos Sainz Jr
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Magnam           ( 2,9%) TimeStamp:    25.160 x
power79         <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 3,0%) TimeStamp:    29.520 TDi_Gol_v8
Alexander Wurz  <----> Enrico Papi      ( 2,4%) TimeStamp:    40.600 x
Laf             <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 1,8%) TimeStamp:    42.640 x
power79         <----> Godlike Jurgen   ( 2,3%) TimeStamp:    51.540 Godlike Jurgen
\/\/||_|_       <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 2,1%) TimeStamp:    51.720 Ippon-Wazaari
Laf             <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,3%) TimeStamp:  1:04.180 TDi_Gol_v8
power79         <----> Godlike Jurgen   ( 1,0%) TimeStamp:  1:05.840 x
Laf             <----> Godlike Jurgen   ( 6,6%) TimeStamp:  1:08.620 Godlike Jurgen
power79         <----> Godlike Jurgen   ( 2,0%) TimeStamp:  1:17.300 x
[SL] Wokinger   <----> power79          ( 2,8%) TimeStamp:  1:22.180 xx
Alexander Wurz  <----> Astunce          ( 2,4%) TimeStamp:  1:22.940 Astunce
Enrico Papi     <----> Astunce          ( 2,1%) TimeStamp:  1:24.180 Enrico Papi
power79         <----> Astunce          ( 3,0%) TimeStamp:  1:31.080 Astunce 
Alexander Wurz  <----> Astunce          ( 2,9%) TimeStamp:  1:31.340 Astunce 
power79         <----> Enrico Papi      ( 3,8%) TimeStamp:  1:31.960 x
power79         <----> [$pectre]Jaw$    (27,1%) TimeStamp:  1:47.860 x
LAP 2: ***************************************************************
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Alexander Wurz   ( 1,6%) TimeStamp:  1:53.680 x
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,1%) TimeStamp:  1:56.680 Magnam
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Alexander Wurz   ( 1,0%) TimeStamp:  2:17.420 Alexander Wurz / [SL] Wokinger
Laf             <----> Godlike Jurgen   ( 1,9%) TimeStamp:  2:21.300 Godlike Jurgen
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 5,1%) TimeStamp:  2:34.400 [SL] Wokinger
Alexander Wurz  <----> Enrico Papi      ( 4,6%) TimeStamp:  2:49.500 Enrico Papi
\/\/||_|_       <----> ???              ( 1,2%) TimeStamp:  2:58.940 x
Enrico Papi     <----> Astunce          ( 5,3%) TimeStamp:  3:17.600 Enrico Papi
Alexander Wurz  <----> Astunce          ( 2,4%) TimeStamp:  3:18.740 Alexander Wurz
LAP 3: ***************************************************************
Luca Badoer     <----> Astunce          ( 2,8%) TimeStamp:  3:41.940 Astunce
Enrico Papi     <----> Astunce          ( 3,2%) TimeStamp:  4:16.840 Astunce
Alexander Wurz  <----> Astunce          ( 4,5%) TimeStamp:  4:17.560 Astunce
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 4,3%) TimeStamp:  4:31.980 [SL] Wokinger Ippon-Wazaari
Laf             <----> Godlike Jurgen   ( 1,6%) TimeStamp:  4:34.780 Godlike Jurgen
LAP 4: ***************************************************************
Ippon-Wazaari   <----> Luca Badoer      ( 2,6%) TimeStamp:  5:30.220 Luca Badoer
Enrico Papi     <----> Astunce          ( 2,4%) TimeStamp:  6:11.180 Enrico Papi
LAP 5: ***************************************************************
Ippon-Wazaari   <----> Luca Badoer      ( 3,2%) TimeStamp:  6:49.180 x
\/\/||_|_       <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 2,2%) TimeStamp:  6:51.140 Ippon-Wazaari
\/\/||_|_       <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 1,4%) TimeStamp:  7:44.560 \/\/||_|_
\/\/||_|_       <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 1,3%) TimeStamp:  8:00.540 Ippon-Wazaari
\/\/||_|_       <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 1,1%) TimeStamp:  8:06.980 Ippon-Wazaari
LAP 6: ***************************************************************
[SL] Wokinger   <----> ???              ( 1,2%) TimeStamp:  9:20.580 x
Astunce         <----> ???              ( 1,3%) TimeStamp:  9:33.240 x
power79         <----> Astunce          (16,6%) TimeStamp:  9:30.400 x
LAP 7: ***************************************************************
\/\/||_|_       <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 4,4%) TimeStamp: 10:22.320 Ippon-Wazaari
power79         <----> Astunce          ( 2,0%) TimeStamp: 10:57.160 x
LAP 11: ***************************************************************
Ippon-Wazaari   <----> ???              ( 1,3%) TimeStamp: 16:55.640 x
power79         <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 3,8%) TimeStamp: 17:21.540 power79 
power79         <----> Ippon-Wazaari    ( 2,6%) TimeStamp: 17:24.960 Ippon-Wazaari
power79         <----> [$pectre]Jaw$    ( 1,6%) TimeStamp: 18:07.580 [$pectre]Jaw$
LAP 12: ***************************************************************
Magnam          <----> ???              ( 1,6%) TimeStamp: 19:00.580 x
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Magnam           ( 1,0%) TimeStamp: 19:11.980 Carlos Sainz Jr
LAP 13: ***************************************************************
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Magnam           ( 3,5%) TimeStamp: 20:44.300 Carlos Sainz Jr
LAP 14: ***************************************************************
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Laf              ( 1,9%) TimeStamp: 21:41.360 Laf
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Laf              ( 2,2%) TimeStamp: 22:39.000 x
LAP 15: ***************************************************************
Enrico Papi     <----> Luca Badoer      ( 1,4%) TimeStamp: 23:38.520 Luca Badoer Enrico Papi
Alexander Wurz  <----> Enrico Papi      ( 1,4%) TimeStamp: 23:39.380 Alexander Wurz
LAP 16: ***************************************************************
[+] Badeend     <----> Astunce          ( 1,4%) TimeStamp: 25:01.380 Astunce***
LAP 17: ***************************************************************
Alexander Wurz  <----> Luca Badoer      ( 2,2%) TimeStamp: 26:49.160 Alexander Wurz
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Godlike Jurgen   ( 2,9%) TimeStamp: 27:31.260 Carlos Sainz Jr
LAP 18: ***************************************************************
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Godlike Jurgen   ( 4,1%) TimeStamp: 27:48.660 Carlos Sainz Jr
LAP 19: ***************************************************************
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Magnam           ( 1,8%) TimeStamp: 30:37.600 Carlos Sainz Jr
LAP 20: ***************************************************************
Magnam          <----> ???              ( 1,1%) TimeStamp: 31:04.680 x
LAP 21: ***************************************************************
power79         <----> Luca Badoer      ( 4,0%) TimeStamp: 33:37.380 power79/x
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> ???              ( 1,6%) TimeStamp: 34:05.440 x
power79         <----> Luca Badoer      ( 1,8%) TimeStamp: 34:08.500 Luca Badoer
power79         <----> Luca Badoer      ( 2,6%) TimeStamp: 34:10.040 power79
LAP 22: ***************************************************************
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Laf              ( 2,0%) TimeStamp: 34:14.200 Carlos Sainz Jr
Oompa           <----> ???              ( 1,1%) TimeStamp: 34:44.700 x
Ippon-Wazaari   <----> Luca Badoer      ( 6,8%) TimeStamp: 34:47.420 Luca Badoer
LAP 23: ***************************************************************
Tinjowitsu-san  <----> Alexander Wurz   ( 4,8%) TimeStamp: 35:27.500 x (amateur)
LAP 24: ***************************************************************
Alexander Wurz  <----> ???              ( 1,1%) TimeStamp: 37:58.240 x
LAP 25: ***************************************************************
Ippon-Wazaari   <----> Enrico Papi      ( 1,2%) TimeStamp: 40:43.720 Ippon-Wazaari
LAP 26: ***************************************************************
[SL] Wokinger   <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 1,3%) TimeStamp: 40:46.860 [SL] Wokinger
[SL] Wokinger   <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 4,4%) TimeStamp: 40:47.960 [SL] Wokinger
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 1,2%) TimeStamp: 41:35.000 TDi_Gol_v8 
LAP 27: ***************************************************************
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,9%) TimeStamp: 42:14.400 TDi_Gol_v8
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 3,3%) TimeStamp: 42:32.140 TDi_Gol_v8 
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 5,5%) TimeStamp: 42:47.620 Magnam
[SL] Wokinger   <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 1,1%) TimeStamp: 42:57.880 [SL] Wokinger
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,0%) TimeStamp: 43:21.400 TDi_Gol_v8
LAP 28: ***************************************************************
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 4,1%) TimeStamp: 43:49.520 Magnam
[SL] Wokinger   <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,7%) TimeStamp: 43:53.680 TDi_Gol_v8
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Magnam           ( 4,2%) TimeStamp: 44:00.680 [SL] Wokinger
[SL] Wokinger   <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,1%) TimeStamp: 44:02.200 TDi_Gol_v8
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,3%) TimeStamp: 44:09.580 TDi_Gol_v8
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Magnam           ( 6,1%) TimeStamp: 44:09.960 x
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,9%) TimeStamp: 44:10.240 TDi_Gol_v8
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,4%) TimeStamp: 44:20.780 TDi_Gol_v8
Laf             <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 3,3%) TimeStamp: 44:21.980 Laf
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,3%) TimeStamp: 44:22.760 TDi_Gol_v8
LAP 29: ***************************************************************
Godlike Jurgen  <----> ???              ( 1,3%) TimeStamp: 45:49.120 x
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Magnam           ( 2,9%) TimeStamp: 46:10.960 Carlos Sainz Jr
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,0%) TimeStamp: 46:14.160 Magnam TDi_Gol_v8
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Magnam           ( 1,6%) TimeStamp: 46:14.160 x (all amateurs)
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 2,6%) TimeStamp: 46:25.380 TDi_Gol_v8
LAP 31: ***************************************************************
[SL] Wokinger   <----> Laf              ( 1,9%) TimeStamp: 49:46.560 [SL] Wokinger
LAP 34: ***************************************************************
[+] Badeend     <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 1,7%) TimeStamp: 52:59.400 x (Badee amateur)
TDi_Gol_v8      <----> ???              ( 1,3%) TimeStamp: 53:40.880 x
Magnam          <----> Godlike Jurgen   ( 1,3%) TimeStamp: 53:46.020 Godlike Jurgen
Magnam          <----> TDi_Gol_v8       ( 5,8%) TimeStamp: 54:47.220 Magnam TDi_Gol_v8
LAP 36: ***************************************************************
[x] Mike Nike   <----> Laf              ( 5,0%) TimeStamp: 56:16.640 Laf***
Magnam          <----> Enrico Papi      ( 1,1%) TimeStamp: 57:15.020 Magnam
LAP 38: ***************************************************************
[x] Mike Nike   <----> Astunce          ( 1,2%) TimeStamp: 58:05.660 Astunce***
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Laf              ( 3,4%) TimeStamp: 58:08.120 Laf
[SL] Wokinger   <----> ???              ( 1,1%) TimeStamp: 58:16.220 x
Jormeli         <----> ???              ( 1,1%) TimeStamp: 58:43.880 x
Jormeli         <----> Alexander Wurz   (25,3%) TimeStamp: 58:37.820 x
Carlos Sainz Jr <----> Laf              ( 1,8%) TimeStamp: 59:48.380 Laf
Ippon-Wazaari   <----> Enrico Papi      ( 1,0%) TimeStamp: 59:57.240 Ippon-Wazaari
power79         <----> Luca Badoer      ( 4,4%) TimeStamp: 61:14.640 Luca Badoer 
Ippon-Wazaari   <----> Enrico Papi      ( 2,6%) TimeStamp: 61:16.680 Ippon-Wazaari
Ippon-Wazaari   <----> Enrico Papi      ( 3,3%) TimeStamp: 61:20.020 Ippon-Wazaari
power79         <----> Luca Badoer      ( 5,8%) TimeStamp: 62:10.820 Luca Badoer

List of punished drivers:
Astunce (-5 pts)
TDi_Gol_v8 (-5 pts)
Magnam (-5 pts)
[SL] Wokinger (-5 pts)
Ippon-Wazaari (-5 pts)
Carlos Sainz Jr (-5 pts)
Luca Badoer (-5 pts)
Laf (-3 pts)
Enrico Papi (-2 pts)
Godlike Jurgen (-2 pts)
Alexander Wurz (-2 pts)

From now on, punishments will be considered only for drivers who are reported on the forum by their opponents.

[Carlos Sainz Jr]

Really? How can contacts with Magnam and Jurgen be my fault if I was way faster cause of new tyres and they were doing their direction lines without leaving any possible space to go through? Ironically those slight retro touches helped them going faster slowing me down and I got penalized. LOL.

Whatever, fix Qualifying Times site please, Silva is counted twice.

[Alexander Wurz]

Lap2 contact with Wokinger is bullshit. I come out from the turn and keep my line, then he suddenly switches lane (he was in track, not off) and hits me: where is my fault? Honestly don't get it... If i let you space you take it, even if you don't like it.

Lap15 w/ Papi. I consider it a small contact. He tried to overtake Badoer, couldn't do it and found him on my way out of the turn. No one is to blame here in my opinion.

Lap17 I don't know which contact is to report. If it's the numerous from turn 1 to 3 then ok, my bad. But if it is my successful attempt to overtake him later in the lap, then it's again bullshit: it's him who closes the lane once I already overtook him.

[Wokinger]

From now on, punishments will be considered only for drivers who are reported on the forum by their opponents.

And it's ok, because most of yours judges are totally bullshit. There are no faults, but races accidents in most cases.

[Whiplash]

Really? How can contacts with Magnam and Jurgen be my fault if I was way faster cause of new tears and they were doing their direction lines without leaving any possible space to go through? Ironically those slight retro touches helped them going faster slowing me down and I got penalized. LOL.

Well, that's the point of racing. They managed to close the door before you were in attack. In that situation you have to wait until you see better chance. But, anyway, only 13th and 29th laps are enough to get -10 pts. You just need to be more patient when overtaking. Your logic now is: I'm going full speed trough the next curve hoping my opponent will make some mistake. You need to know that one hit that causes 5% makes already ruined race to your opponent.

Lap2 contact with Wokinger is bullshit. I come out from the turn and keep my line, then he suddenly switches lane (he was in track, not off) and hits me: where is my fault? Honestly don't get it... If i let you space you take it, even if you don't like it.

Lap15 w/ Papi. I consider it a small contact. He tried to overtake Badoer, couldn't do it and found him on my way out of the turn. No one is to blame here in my opinion.

Lap17 I don't know which contact is to report. If it's the numerous from turn 1 to 3 then ok, my bad. But if it is my successful attempt to overtake him later in the lap, then it's again bullshit: it's him who closes the lane once I already overtook him.

Lap 1 was enough for your punishment. In lap 2 I saw mistake on your both sides. You didn't leave enough space even it was evident that he's faster, and he was already in line with you. His mistake was aggressive move to your side. Lap 15 and 17 - pretty much the same. You can't overtake somebody by luck. You need to wait and plan your moves. Show more patience instead forcing the overtake. Make some secure distance behind your opponent and then wait his mistake.

[Whiplash]

And it's ok, because most of yours judges are totally bullshit. There are no faults, but races accidents in most cases.

I agree on the second part. I believe we all want to be fair, and that all those were simply accidents. But those "accidents", as you can notice - 50% of drivers avoided successfully in every race (just analyze Will's last race). Let's now make the other 50% to do it too.

EDIT:
And, OK, I'll get your all points back - you amateurs!

[Alexander Wurz]

Lap2 contact with Wokinger is bullshit. I come out from the turn and keep my line, then he suddenly switches lane (he was in track, not off) and hits me: where is my fault? Honestly don't get it... If i let you space you take it, even if you don't like it.

Lap15 w/ Papi. I consider it a small contact. He tried to overtake Badoer, couldn't do it and found him on my way out of the turn. No one is to blame here in my opinion.

Lap17 I don't know which contact is to report. If it's the numerous from turn 1 to 3 then ok, my bad. But if it is my successful attempt to overtake him later in the lap, then it's again bullshit: it's him who closes the lane once I already overtook him.

Lap 1 was enough for your punishment. In lap 2 I saw mistake on your both sides. You didn't leave enough space even it was evident that he's faster, and he was already in line with you. His mistake was aggressive move to your side. Lap 15 and 17 - pretty much the same. You can't overtake somebody by luck. You need to wait and plan your moves. Show more patience instead forcing the overtake. Make some secure distance behind your opponent and then wait his mistake.[/quote]
I watched it 10 times, and I am sure I left enough space for Wok to overtake me. There is at least one and a half car between mine and the sideline.

For what concerns lap15, again, the contact is a strict consequence of their previous one, had not enough time to react and found myself there.

If lap1 is enough to give me a punishment of 2 points, players like Astunce or Ippon deserve more than 5. They are a constant scary dangerous menace everytime they show in rear view.

[Carlos Sainz Jr]

No Whippe, I don't care about points to be honest but trust me, I try to be as fair as possible but sometimes it is impossible to avoid some slight race accident contacts, especially if there are cars everywhere next to you (I understand yo can't get it since you start in Top 6 everytime). For example my second contact with Ippon is literally impossible to avoid, and the only contact visible in lap 13 I just didn't expect Magnam to brake so early since I was right behind him in the straight. He took advantage from that and Jurgen who was behind me was about to overtake me cause I lost a lot of speed lol.

What I meant before is that some cars change their direction lines instead of leaving some space just cause they know that if they get pushed the following car lose some speed, but for you that is the second car's fault. How is that possible?

Nevermind, I'll accept the verdict and I'll start again having on my mind how I let Mike and Tinjo pass me and my fight against Will. Peace

[Mike Nike]

Any chance to follow through your own sector times?

Tijny once wrote a tool to merge tsr files in a certain way (@T: you got any link?). Not sure if power79 wrote one too or is just using the same.
Anyways, somewhere in the doc files in your turbosliders location it is mentioned that you can start sliders.exe with a parameter that will write more data into output.txt, which includes the information frame/laptime/car position/keys hold down/car speed. It's a bit of work, but that way you can find out "what laptime is reachable". I did that with AntiSlider in Forestry once plenty years ago.

[Mike Nike]

Whatever, fix Qualifying Times site please, Silva is counted twice.

Silva drove with a 2nd hash value/2nd account. Probably he reinstalled Turbo Sliders or used a 2nd TS folder (i have like 60 of these). I can imagine certain circumstances, where it is for once fine to keep him the chance to login with one of the 2 accounts at race day, so he won't accidently be blocked from the server.
Oh by the way, im gonna create 20 different accounts now and fill the top20 times all with my fake accounts (well, tijny might be still in top5 here). Will be an interesting pro race, using 1 ip, 20 ts folders and 1-2 drivers beat the rest by 45 laps lead! gg ;D

@Silva: you can still get your old player data back in case you lose them once..