PTX-Servers

Jarno · Post by **Jarno** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:04 pm

Couple of players have talked a lot of possibilities to change one of PTX-servers in random cars mode (fixedcar 0). So here you can release your opinion of ptx-servers car mode.

wazaari · Post by **wazaari** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:16 pm

Of course!!
It is a good idea!!!

Keppana · Post by **Keppana** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:00 pm

Random cars for all players x) Not available now, but hope so in next release.

Post by **dede** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:24 pm

Keppana wrote:Random cars for all players x) Not available now, but hope so in next release.

He means car randomly fixed. It's ok and better than the current one, but with some script like thedude's we can decide things better.

Jarno · Post by **Jarno** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:16 am

Please give more votes. And it would be good to hear your opinions about this. Good and bad things about random cars.

mikko · Post by **mikko** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:33 pm

If more radical changes are not made after the introduction of turbosliders.com, I would select random cars for each cup, but not for each track. This means that the car is randomly selected at each restart of the server and then kept fixed during the whole cup.

-wolf- · Post by **-wolf-** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:54 pm

The fun server is a fun server so u shud be able to choose from available cars and the racing server is a racing server it shud be more fair - random so anyone can possibly win.

Post by **dede** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:09 pm

<[GPOR] rivolta> -> VOTE: YES -> "Yes, I'd be happy about that. It could be fun."

<Radian> -> VOTE: NO -> "I dont like random because you keep switching cars and have to get used to the new one. It's like playing tennis with different rackets or bowling with a different ball. Its good thought o play the different cars though, that way you learn them. Yeah thats ok - thats more fair but i dont realy do good with like speeder."

<83....... (DaniloDiLuca)> -> VOTE: YES -> "yea, might scare some ppl away - well, mostly it becomes an anti server - it's good since most ppl want to race with same cars - just more varied with random"

<XIII> -> VOTE: ? -> "freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee server k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee server k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - (SAME..)"

<[PT]Vitor - Luck Lucky> -> VOTE: NO -> "my vote is NO becouse i like ANTI car the others sucks"

<[NOS]Raptor> -> VOTE: NO -> No motivations..

-wolf- · Post by **-wolf-** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:54 pm

what about my vote?

mikko · Post by **mikko** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:11 pm

dede wrote:<Radian> -> VOTE: NO -> "I dont like random because you keep switching cars and have to get used to the new one. It's like playing tennis with different rackets or bowling with a different ball.

Exactly. That's why it's better to have the car fixed during the cup.

razor · Post by **razor** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:55 am

YES! Rsndom cars. I just have to learn how to drive speeder better...

Punatiainen · Post by **Punatiainen** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:59 pm

Random cars in racing-server = YES.

It's more racing and less pinball when everyone has same car. And random car for each race.

If there would be one random car for each cup, it wouldn't work. Then part of the people would quite at start, if there comes a car they dislike. Better to have random for each race, then your favorite car could come in to next race. Idea of driving 20 races with car i dislike doesn't sound good at all.

Which brings us to next subject:

I would consider decreasing the amount of tracks in one cup from 20 to 12.

1) Because now if you come to server later, lets say in race number 6-7, you have no chance to win the cup and you have to "wait" for 13-14 races before new cup starts and you have your chances again.

2) I think people wouldn't quit so easily from the server when there is shorter cup.

3) Shorter cup would bring more excitement for cup.

-wolf- · Post by **-wolf-** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:31 pm

who holds ptx servers?

Hengari · Post by **Hengari** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:39 pm

Slider wrote:who holds ptx servers?

Playtrix guys

Post by **dede** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:56 pm

Punatiainen wrote:Random cars in racing-server = YES.

It's more racing and less pinball when everyone has same car. And random car for each race.

If there would be one random car for each cup, it wouldn't work. Then part of the people would quite at start, if there comes a car they dislike. Better to have random for each race, then your favorite car could come in to next race. Idea of driving 20 races with car i dislike doesn't sound good at all.

Which brings us to next subject:

I would consider decreasing the amount of tracks in one cup from 20 to 12.

1) Because now if you come to server later, lets say in race number 6-7, you have no chance to win the cup and you have to "wait" for 13-14 races before new cup starts and you have your chances again.

2) I think people wouldn't quit so easily from the server when there is shorter cup.

3) Shorter cup would bring more excitement for cup.

HEY MY IDEAS! THEY WERE COPYRIGHTED

Well, I agree on everything you said though I purposed less tracks for cup (8-10 maximum). In the first case (8 tracks) I suggest to set /laps to 6, because sometimes races are too short. Another good idea would be to set /order on Fastest lap or on Last race's results. In this way also players that enter the cup in the middle can have the chance of winning a race (with antislider, for example, people who start from the back can't overtake fastly other cars and hardly can try to win the race).

u9 · Post by u9 » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:04 pm

Punatiainen wrote:Random cars in racing-server = YES.

It's more racing and less pinball when everyone has same car. And random car for each race.

If there would be one random car for each cup, it wouldn't work. Then part of the people would quite at start, if there comes a car they dislike. Better to have random for each race, then your favorite car could come in to next race. Idea of driving 20 races with car i dislike doesn't sound good at all.

Which brings us to next subject:

I would consider decreasing the amount of tracks in one cup from 20 to 12.

1) Because now if you come to server later, lets say in race number 6-7, you have no chance to win the cup and you have to "wait" for 13-14 races before new cup starts and you have your chances again.

2) I think people wouldn't quit so easily from the server when there is shorter cup.

3) Shorter cup would bring more excitement for cup.

I agree with everything too

I vote Random cars in racing-server AND Random cars in fun-server

It is fine with fewer tracks per cup, but then the tracks should be random between cups so we don't race the same tracks again and again and again... variety is the spice of life!

-wolf- · Post by **-wolf-** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:57 am

no not in fun server. fun server is for fun. tehre u can do anything.

Jarno · Post by **Jarno** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:22 am

Nice thoughts here. 3/4 would wanted to have random cars used so i think it is obvious. I mailed to froz about this and now we have to wait see what will happened.

About that number of tracks: Maybe there should be another poll for that but people may only vote that short cup i think. So if you could give thoughts about this too in here. Would you like to have shorter cups in racing- or fun- server? Both? And why? And if you think that 20races in cup is good then why?

Hengari · Post by **Hengari** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:05 am

Jarno wrote:About that number of tracks: Maybe there should be another poll for that but people may only vote that short cup i think. So if you could give thoughts about this too in here. Would you like to have shorter cups in racing- or fun- server? Both? And why? And if you think that 20races in cup is good then why?

As we have talked about tracks before and as puna and dede said, about 10-12 races in a cup would be better than 20. The amount of laps is a different thing, with 5 laps its more like racing but on the other hand...

Janne · Post by **Janne** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:12 am

IMO 6 laps is too much for racing server because many of the tracks takes more than 30s to complete a lap and none of them less than 15s. 6 laps would be pretty good for fun tracks server though.

Decreasing number of races to about 10 would be nice.

Post by **dede** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:31 am

Yes, good thought Janne & Hengari. Maybe 6 laps aren't good for racing server.

BTW, noone is discussing about /order. I think that we should set that on last race's results, so everyone can gain the first line in grid after the first race. Otherwise who joins the server after 4 races hasn't good chances to get the first line in the grid before the end of the cup.

Hengari · Post by **Hengari** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:04 am

dede wrote:BTW, noone is discussing about /order. I think that we should set that on last race's results, so everyone can gain the first line in grid after the first race. Otherwise who joins the server after 4 races hasn't good chances to get the first line in the grid before the end of the cup.

On the other hand order with fastest lap is good for racing if faster people come in the middle of the cup.

I don't really know if I like fastest lap or cup order the best. Reverse order is just pain, too much slow cars to overtake and random is just random.

u9 · Post by u9 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:27 am

Laps
It actually really annoys me a lot that there are only 4 laps. I think the race is over MUCH too quickly. For me I have only just learned the track when the race is over, but of course veteran players who know the tracks probably are satisfied with the 4 laps. With 6 or 8 lap races there is room for variety. People who make a mistake have a chance to fight back. 8 laps is used by those ?Brazilian? servers (TSB or something like that) and I love it.

So I would actually guess newcomers would like more laps. If you're thinking "newcomers end up soooo far behind the leaders if we have more laps and that's no fun for a newcomer". Well that's true, but remember that if there are 2 players, one pro and one newbie then in effect both are racing "alone"

number of races
If people care that much about cups (which it seems many do, not me though) then the cups should definitely be shorter. But remember, if the tracks are not selected at random then shorter cups come closer to demo servers. Actually shorter cups = demo server when cup length becomes 3 races. See what I mean? No variety.

So without random track selection at cup start I actually vote longer cups

But remember, I don't care if I win the cup or not (probably because I never win hehe).

Fun server
It also sounds like the fun server is not for racing. People don't mind chaos on fun server? My personally opinion is that the fun server has fun tracks... For me that means the tracks are fun, creative, non-traditional, e.g. a piece of road is used to race both ways, there are several different ways around the track, sand and water scattered around in corners etc. For me it doesn't mean that anything goes here. I like to win races just as much on fun server as on the racing server and I dislike being knocked out of the corner in just as much in fun server as in racing server.

Therefore i vote (which is not shown in poll) random car per race in fun server.

Finally
P.s. The poll is missing some options. E.g. what should people vote if they want random cars on both servers?

Punatiainen · Post by **Punatiainen** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:59 am

How about just changing the amount of races to 12 in racing server and test it for couple of months.

If it works, then maybe no further changes are needed. But if it doesn't, then the order and laps and other things could be considered again.

No need to change everything at one sitting.

Post by **dede** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:21 pm

u9 wrote:number of races
If people care that much about cups (which it seems many do, not me though) then the cups should definitely be shorter. But remember, if the tracks are not selected at random then shorter cups come closer to demo servers. Actually shorter cups = demo server when cup length becomes 3 races. See what I mean? No variety.

Very nice comments, u9, but IMO you are wrong on this: in demo servers you have shorter cups, of course, but you have also 3 tracks only -> no variety. But why you think that 8-12 tracks could bring no variety in racing tracks too? Actually there are many tracks selected by random, so cups are not always the same: tracks change.
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