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TurboSliders Awards 2006

Post by dede » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:43 pm

Hello there,

a TS year just ended and a new one is started too. TurboSlidersBrasil gave me the idea of assigning Awards to the best TS players, about the same of Oscars for cinema or Golden Ball for football. I know it's hard to judge who was the best player of the past year, so I decided to assign one prize for each category. Most of these prizes will be assigned basing on race logs of the most important TS cups, and some will need a commission of TS players.
The first step will be assigning Awards to TS players for racing skills, but in next months we will assign Awards for PunaBall, xBumpz, TrackMakers, Tracks and other.
Each Award/Nomination will result in TS.com Players' profiles.

Here you can find those categories who will be judged in this 1st step:
• Best EasySlider Player 2006
• Best Slider Player 2006
• Best AntiSlider Player 2006
• Best Speeder Player 2006
• Best Spinner Player 2006
• Best All Cars Player 2006

• Fastest EasySlider Player 2006
• Fastest Slider Player 2006
• Fastest AntiSlider Player 2006
• Fastest Speeder Player 2006
• Fastest Spinner Player 2006
• Fastest All Cars Player 2006

• Best Team 2006

• Fastest Newcomer 2006
• Best Newcomer 2006

• Best Demo Player 2006

• Best Rough Racer 2006


As I said, these Awards are assigned basing on cups' results, race logs, and other things I will specify later. This means that online activity counts a lot: players with big skills and with unconstant online activity won't be prized. Another important issue is "lag": race results of some player are conditioned by lag. These Awards won't consider it: we can't say how much lag slows down and we can't change race results calculating a damage caused by lag.

Calculating Nominations and Awards' winners will take a while, but you can start discussing about your favourite drivers for each category :wink:

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Post by diesel 999 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:48 pm

Naaais 8)

I think we could do this from year 2007.

Another idea: Each of us can try to vote for top 5-10 players in ALL aspects/categories of 2004-2007 period.In case we want to make clear these things.
Just one question: are we Really need this and Where we can use it?
At least , the history and beautiful blog ( http://tsranking.blogspot.com. ) from Z will be better and more interesting.
Thank you very much.
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Post by Captain_K » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:41 pm

Hello, Dede! Nice job but I see you have forgotten few categories. Let me fill those lacks:

• Best Beef 2006
• Best Beef Master 2006
• Greatest Wanker 2006

Hope you can add these awards to your list!

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Post by dede » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:50 pm

As I said, it's just a feature for players profiles. A feature for TS.com. About the voting system, I will consider to add it after TS.com will be published.
The idea of Awards comes in order to involve more players playing the game in 2007, so they will challenge the current top players in each category.

Don't expect to see results here in next days: I spent 1 hour calculating the first criteria of "EasySlider Fastest Player"...


About those categories suggested by Captain K, community could decide who to assign those awards regarding "beefs". About the one regarding "wankers", it is already on my list (Fastest XXXX Player..).

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Post by Mike Nike » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:07 am

I know we discussed about it yet, dede, but i like to add it here (some additional personal awards i use to give):
How people think about community awards?
Examples:
Best Racing Trackmaker & Tracks
Best Fun Trackmaker & Tracks
Best F1 Trackmaker & Tracks
Best Tournament Organizer & Tournament
Best Forum Support
etc etc
all resulting in something like Best Community Support(er)

There wouldn't be that many at the brasilian side on 2006.
But on the european side we would have for example (i skip to mention all nominateable ones):
dede & wazaari, Jeffrey, Jazzyclub, Jarno, benzinfurz, Keppana, Tijny, Borg, VPA, TheDude..

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Post by dede » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:56 pm

dede wrote:The first step will be assigning Awards to TS players for racing skills, but in next months we will assign Awards for PunaBall, xBumpz, TrackMakers, Tracks and other.

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Post by dede » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:12 pm

Yesterday I've been calculating points for this award:

Fastest EasySlider Player 2006

Here there are some specifications:

• Fastest EasySlider Player 2006:
This award is assigned to the fastest EasySlider player, the one who is able to push his EasySlider to its limits.
Criteria: fastest lap counts, independently from the number of laps driven. Number of laps driven doesn’t affect the vote.
Considered Competitions: Dark Ippon Tournament (40 pts), Official TS Ranking (11 pts), Weekly Wank Tournament (12 pts), Swoot Challenge 1 - Qualifications (12 pts), Time Trial Cups {OIC15, SIT10, DIT8 Time Trial Cup} (20 pts).

First results weren't that reliable (max points = 100):

Tijny 98,3333
Ippon-dede 88,2000
Janne 52,6000
MaunoKasa 49,8667
Ippon-wazaari 49,3667
Mike Nike 48,5000
[WCR]Matti 47,9000
mikko 46,7000
[WP] Daft [FIN] 31,5000
colt 30,7000
Ippon-benzin 26,4000
[Swoot]Nathan 25,3000
[FUbar]Pieter 24,2000
Picolo 22,3333
etana 15,6333
[Flow]Limp-pu 13,5000
[Swoot]Lirarn 13,3667
Ippon-Bar 12,7667
[FUbar]ilippi 12,0000
[TL] Lzan 11,7667
[FUbar]Fergu 11,0000
[WCR]JimMiE22o2 10,0000
(...)


So I decided to try merging these results with real players skills, according to me (50% results + 50% skills). This is the result:

Tijny 98,6667
Ippon-dede 88,6000
MaunoKasa 70,9333
Mike Nike 70,7500
Janne 70,3000
[WCR]Matti 66,4500
[WP] Daft [FIN] 65,7500
mikko 64,3500
Ippon-wazaari 60,1833
colt 55,3500
Picolo 52,6667
[FUbar]Pieter 51,1000
Ippon-benzin 50,7000
etana 49,8167
Ippon-Peto! 48,8000
[Swoot]Nathan 47,6500
[TL] Lzan 46,3833
[FUbar]ilippi 43,5000
[Flow]Limp-pu 41,2500
Razzle 40,7500
Ippon-Kyna 40,0000
[Swoot]Lirarn 39,6833
LaTuska 39,0000
[WP]Pappa 38,3000
[YO] Gi Bear 38,1500
[WCR]JimMiE22o2 38,0000
(...)


Results seem now more reliable, but it's definitively too hard calculating every single criteria for each award (e.g. this award took 3 hours.. and it had pretty few criteria).

For this reason I think a commission will choose best players for each category: I would need one month calculating each criteria. Too much. Which players for the commission? I was thinking of good players, who can be fair voting best players (e.g. not basing on friendship), who was active enough in 2006 to know what he's voting about. I have 5-6 names in my mind, please suggest yours.

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Post by Jeffrey » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:59 pm

Mike Nike wrote: Best Racing Trackmaker & Tracks
Best Fun Trackmaker & Tracks
Best F1 Trackmaker & Tracks
Best Tournament Organizer & Tournament
Best Forum Support
etc etc
all resulting in something like Best Community Support(er)

THIS SOUNDS INTERESTING

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Post by Tap » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:52 pm

I think there are too many categories, these ain't the grammy awards. Just scratch all those fastest awards and stick with the best!
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Post by dede » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:23 pm

Tap wrote:I think there are too many categories, these ain't the grammy awards. Just scratch all those fastest awards and stick with the best!
Yes, we've discussed about this already. I'll consider it ;)

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Post by The Dude » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:00 pm

Tap wrote:I think there are too many categories, these ain't the grammy awards. Just scratch all those fastest awards and stick with the best!
I'll second that.
Too many categories just devalues the whole thing and those seems less interesting.
Good idea btw!

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Post by Burn » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:35 pm

Dede! I don't know how you determined the easyslider points.....I doesn't seem fair.....

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Post by dede » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:01 am

Burn wrote:Dede! I don't know how you determined the easyslider points.....I doesn't seem fair.....
Basing on tournaments, mainly, and on players skillz according to me.

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Post by Burn » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:08 am

It shouldn't be according to JUST YOU! I think that we should vote! There should be a nominations thread and people will nominate one person for each award then the top 4 from each award section will be the people you vote for! Example:
1.Tijny 20 votes
2.mikko 17 votes
3.Ippon-benzin 16 votes
4.[Swoot]Nathan 13 votes
These are the top 4 Players(according to TS Players) for the Best Spinner racer!
OR:
Dede you can nominate the best that you think with 3 of your friends that you trust the most. You decide together which 4 people should be picked(you may choose yourself if you have an explanation on WHY) then TS Players whould vote in a Poll Thread!
I just don't think its fair that you are picking everybody and other people don't even have a chance!

Burn :?

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Post by dede » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:02 am

Note: those calculations were only a test. I tried three different combinations in order to see what was the result.

Anyway, I think I would be the best one who could assign these awards in the case I wouldn't be competing for them: I've been playing constantly for the whole 2006 year, I joined 90% of online cups, I know everything of everyone. Well, in the game I could say "Jarno, you suck! I'm so much faster with you with every car!", but I won't ever say this when we are talking of serious things, like these awards are supposed to be. Letting all players voting would be an error: who has more friends wins. I don't want that. For this reason there are two ways to calculate the winner for each category:

- cups results
- little commission composed by top active players

The first one would prize who played most cups with the best result. Pretty fair for some category, but definitively too hard to calculate (as I specified before, it took 3 hours just for one category).
The second one will be probably used.


About the sentence where you say "I just don't think its fair that you are picking everybody and other people don't even have a chance!", it's pretty clear that only a couple of players will have a chance to win those awards. Names are pretty well known, and they are those one who were @ top in those calculations I posted before.

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Post by Burn » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:24 pm

Ok but i think i would be a little more fair for TS Players to have a say in this considering you've only been to 90% OF CUPS! Just let other people have a say besdes you! PLEASE!

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Post by Hengari » Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:07 pm

Burn wrote:Ok but i think i would be a little more fair for TS Players to have a say in this considering you've only been to 90% OF CUPS! Just let other people have a say besdes you! PLEASE!
It's well known fact that there are just few drivers who are suitable for the awards considering the cup and wanking results. Those results are available around the net for everyone to see and calculate for himself.

What Dede suggested for that one rank it is quite alright and about correct. It's calculated from results and it isn't that Dede has just made that list from nothing (like Z did he's list :D). Of course it is difficult to rank players and when some drivers don't drive so often against each others.

How more fair can you be for drivers if that list is calculated from actual results?
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Post by Burn » Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:18 pm

OK Hengari, and also Z's list was a test, it wasnt the real thing!

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Post by dede » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:14 pm

Burn wrote:Ok but i think i would be a little more fair for TS Players to have a say in this considering you've only been to 90% OF CUPS! Just let other people have a say besdes you! PLEASE!
Of course, I would like to know your opinion about these awards: who deserves to win each category, in your opinion?
A discussion is welcome, but I won't sum all votes in order to obtain the real winner. The real winner will be selected by the commission of expert and fair players, and not basing only on personal preferences.

Anyway, who are the best TS players in your opinion (for each category)?

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Post by Hengari » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:10 pm

dede wrote:Anyway, who are the best TS players in your opinion (for each category)?
I vote for TURBOSPEEDER! There's a driver with mad skillz in each category.
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Post by Punatiainen » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:05 am


Best EasySlider Player 2006
• Best Slider Player 2006
• Best AntiSlider Player 2006
• Best Speeder Player 2006
• Best Spinner Player 2006
• Best All Cars Player 2006

• Fastest EasySlider Player 2006
• Fastest Slider Player 2006
• Fastest AntiSlider Player 2006
• Fastest Speeder Player 2006
• Fastest Spinner Player 2006
• Fastest All Cars Player 2006
Ehm... Why there is this fastest player category, when there allready is Best player category? Don't count any wanking tournaments, this is on-line game right?

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Post by dede » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:34 am

Punatiainen wrote:Ehm... Why there is this fastest player category, when there allready is Best player category? Don't count any wanking tournaments, this is on-line game right?
More or less, but wanking is definitively an important part for this game.
Anyway, as I said earlier, commission will consider to remove these awards.

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Post by Tijny » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:34 am

That's what I've been trying to tell dede, but as stubborn as he is... :lol:

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Post by Punatiainen » Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:00 am

One bonus award could be:

Gentleman driver of the year.

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Post by Burn » Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:16 pm

dede, i didn't mean myself, i thought most people THAT YOU TRUST the most would help you, that's what i said.
dede wrote:Anyway, who are the best TS players in your opinion (for each category)
Well, Top 5 are 1.Jarno 2.Tijny 3.etana 4.Ippon-dede(you) 5.Mike Nike

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