The AntiSlider

[JayTee]

Let's talk about the anti.

I like this car for it's purity, and it's not an easy one like the spinner, but these are the only good things i can say about it.

It's by far the fastest car on most tracks and it's a dull, dull car to race*. The fastest car on all the other tracks is the speeder, but that's fun car, so no worries.

When racing against other antis it's very hard to loose or gain ground unless you hit something. It's just no fun, there's no carefuly controlled chaos like the other cars.

I don't think the anti should be nerfed (made worse). I think that the easyslider and the slider should be given a fighting chance. The easy could certainly use better low end acceleration.

Anyway, what are your thoughts on the anti-slider people?

*i wanted to call this the Anti-Anti Thread.

[ts-fan]

In my point of view there isn't such a thing as "easy car".

Think about it:

If it's "easy" to drive - that means everybody can drive it. That means it's even tougher to actually win a race!

If you have a "difficult" car like Speeder, less peole know how to drive it and everybody has greater chance to finish on higher positions with only little effort!

So, with anti, an "easy" car, it's more DIFFICULT to succeed.

Don't think about it purely as controlling the car or staying on the road. Think about chances of high race positions. With Speeder, even pros make dozens of little mistakes in every race. With Antislider those mistakes are more rare and the competition is thus harder. Of course, with every car, there are huge gaps of skill between drivers.

[[FN]ThE BoRG]

well, how shall i put this mildly...

its the only damn i car i can drive with reasonable skill so stop bitching about my baby will ya!

[FN] ThE BoRg

[xzeal]

First of all the reason that one car is way better then another is why they added "random cars" to 1.00 and second of all i disagree that anti is the best car on most tracks, you would be suprised what speeder can do, even on the tracks that seem drivable only by anti or spinner.

Of course that speeder is rather hard to control and takes a ton of practice, but believe me it is worth it.

Oh and by the way there used to be a team in 0.86 called [ass] which means "antisliders-suck", it was quite popular

[Thunderer]

Anti is my favourite car. Not because I can't drive with the others, but just because it's a fun car to drive. I like to just "put the pedal to the metal" (MSF motto) and drive. Since the control is so good, you don't have to think ahead in each curve when to slow down or push the breaks or whatever. Of course some driver's don't have to think about that with any cars...

About the fairness. I think it's more realistic in a racing situation that the ones that are coming from behind only get an opportunity to get past because of their better driving or the other's mistakes. I personally don't like the chaos that some smaller tracks cause when driving with speeder or slider.

Also, antislider is so heavy that even when hit top speed with another antislider the damage is minimal. This is good considering some people's idea on curve tactics.

If there's one car that I don't like, it's easyslider, but that's not the issue here...

[JimMiE22o2]

I really dislike Antislider because i suck with it. How the hell do people like Tinjy and Mike Nike drive it so fast.

Anti can be nocked around too, it just depends where. I was turning and an easyslider hit me. Because its anti, I slid a little and lost a lot of distance. If is was going straight and got hit, instant top speed.

P.S. The slider is also a competive car. I've beaten some speeders and anti racers with it. It turns good and accels ok. Rock on!!!

[Guest]

When racing against other antis it's very hard to loose or gain ground unless you hit something. It's just no fun, there's no carefuly controlled chaos like the other cars.

I totaly agree. If you stard from behind you hardly have a chance. But it seems that for beginners the Anti is the easiest car.

I don't think the anti should be nerfed (made worse). I think that the easyslider and the slider should be given a fighting chance. The easy could certainly use better low end acceleration.

Especially the slider. The game had no antisliders in the beginning if you remember.

But I think the best thing would get the server full enough to have a well used Slider-only server.

On the other hand the Anti is much better to drive if you have not such a good server connection as the lags is much worse for cars where you have to steer most. And now I also find it relaxing to drive with the Anti on some tracks where you have concentrate too much if you don't want to crash into the edges all the time.

Anyway, what are your thoughts on the anti-slider people?

They just can'd drive!

[Flexman]

Ooops... that Guest was me...

[Punatiainen]

Three words: Puna's Antislider Cup

[Newton]

"I really dislike Antislider because i suck with it. How the hell do people like Tinjy and Mike Nike drive it so fast." -Jimmie

It seems that you haven't seen BL4CK or swos driving it.

[JimMiE22o2]

"I really dislike Antislider because i suck with it. How the hell do people like Tinjy and Mike Nike drive it so fast." -Jimmie

It seems that you haven't seen BL4CK or swos driving it.

Not those 2 or anyother siltec members. I never raced .86:(

[Tuvok]

In my point of view there isn't such a thing as "easy car".

Think about it:

If it's "easy" to drive - that means everybody can drive it. That means it's even tougher to actually win a race!

If you have a "difficult" car like Speeder, less peole know how to drive it and everybody has greater chance to finish on higher positions with only little effort!

So, with anti, an "easy" car, it's more DIFFICULT to succeed.

Don't think about it purely as controlling the car or staying on the road. Think about chances of high race positions. With Speeder, even pros make dozens of little mistakes in every race. With Antislider those mistakes are more rare and the competition is thus harder. Of course, with every car, there are huge gaps of skill between drivers.

Ur logic is flawed....
again...

[Flexman]

you would be suprised what speeder can do, even on the tracks that seem drivable only by anti or spinner.

Sure the speeder can do much. But not if many cars are on the road. But since this is not the case anymore I guess speeder will also be very popular now.

Also I can remember that you were one of the first very good speeder drivers in 0.86.

Oh and by the way there used to be a team in 0.86 called [ass] which means "antisliders-suck", it was quite popular

It wasn't only popular, it also wasn't a bad team as we won the cup where the team was founded with a double victory. Unfortunately this team didn't last very long.

[xzeal]

Also I can remember that you were one of the first very good speeder drivers in 0.86.

Thats true monza66a was the track where i discovered that speeder rocks, but the lap times i got then which were also the record times on the playtrix server for a month or so are over 2 seconds slower then these days. So even though i was fast compared to others then, im not much of that now :/

[Ed]

I'd like to see it so that different cars actually are stronger on different tracks. If you look at the top scores from http://ts1.umoco.com/records/ and add up the total time for all laps, the totals show too large advantages I believe.

Total
EasySlider 6:20.182
Slider 6:16.900
Speeder 5:52.993
Anti-Slider 6:10.915