Turbo Sliders Feature Requests

Post by **Mike Nike** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:18 pm

fasteddie399 wrote:
It's funny that this idea has been requested... I have been recently working on an application that does exactly what you guys are requesting, plus more.

Welcome in the club

You will also be able to select a player name and get a list for all default tracks: overall ranking, ranking per car (default cars), time behind record, total time for each car and all default tracks, and overall ranking for all tracks combined (per car)

yes, yes aaaand...yes ^^

This program I am creating will also give similar stats for ALL of your tracks. That's why it would be GREAT if there were a "master" record server, one that kept track of records for any track ever made (or at least every track that records were imported from). If such a master server existed, then you'd be able to see how you rank with any particular car at any track (i.e. pu_Jumbo with the TSB-F2 car).

My words, too

Another feature I plan to implement is a configuration of Player Aliases so that if you select a player name, it will also show you records made by other player names that the same person uses (i.e. "[GER]MikeNike" = "MikeNike" = <whatever other names he uses>)

Slowly i wonder, which of my tools and its features i showed or told you and which not...

And yet another feature would be to be able to configure your AI cars, race settings, track settings, and other game settings, all through a nice and friendly Windows GUI.

go, fasteddie, go

Sliders Setup, i called my tool, one of those, which i never really published due to not finalized development status...
About an AI creation tool i thought too, but i have not decided on a concret concept yet - so: are you thinking to something concret already? And would the GUI work like a SliderSetup or more like a serveradmin tool (AI settings choice, instead of creating for example)?

I'm writing this program with VB.NET and hope to be able to distribute it sometime this month... My first attempts to test distribution didn't work out so well, but I know why and I'm working on it.

I wish you good luck and that you find the time, which i have found so rarely (or maybe: which i have searched not consequently enough)

Oh, important thing: are your tools actually all based for only linux for example or do you work with VB.net platform independent?

fasteddie399 · Post by **fasteddie399** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:09 am

Mike: Thanks for the comments!

Sliders Setup, i called my tool

I don't recall seeing that program, so, I haven't based any of mine after it...

About an AI creation tool i thought too, but i have not decided on a concret concept yet - so: are you thinking to something concret already?

Don't quite know yet... I haven't looked too deeply into this feature yet.

Oh, important thing: are your tools actually all based for only linux for example or do you work with VB.net platform independent?

Well, so far, my aim is to develop a Windows .exe program that the user will install into their TurboSliders folder. I know next-to-nothing about Linux, but it's probably time I start learning about it.

If this application becomes popular and is highly-requested to work with Linux, perhaps something must be done to satisfy such requests.

This "project" is still in it's infant stages - and as I develop features and tweak them, I continuously find better/easier ways to program them, and I also continuously think of new features. So, I'm going to have to draw the line at some point, and prepare a "release" of the program, and declare certain features "to be implemented in future versions". In actuality, this program is nothing of major scale. Just a few comboboxes and list boxes and buttons and menu items... but, we'll see how far it goes.

I think I will have a lot of time to spend on it this weekend, and I'll keep those of you interested posted on it's progress... maybe even screenshots

fasteddie399

road_oktane · Post by **road_oktane** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:41 pm

eddie, please, release it !! :D

aquestion will be possible to get stats for non-default cars?

fasteddie399 · Post by **fasteddie399** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:39 pm

Well, here it is Sunday evening and the program seems to be working very well. So far, here are the features:

- Ability to select any track (that you have records for), then select any particular car (or you can select "all cars" or "all default cars"), then select any particular player name (or you can select "all players". A list will be displayed of all records (sorted of course) for the criteria you selected.

- Ability to display or not display "collision laps" in the listing

- If you select a particular player name, and a particular default car, a second listing will be displayed that shows that players overall ranking at each default track with the selected car. It will also give a total of all rankings so you can see an overall default-track total ranking per player / per car.

- Ability to configure player name "aliases" that the program will use to equate different player names as the same person. This applies to both listings mentioned above.

So far, that's about all the program does... but there are many more features planned, such as ability to designate tracks / cars / players that you don't want to include in the listings (this may prove to be a valuable feature, as currently, my player listing is over 1000 players, and most of them I don't particularly care about)

Also planned are many more listings, and perhaps a Turbo Sliders settings manager (to manage all of your local players, AI bots, race and other game settings, etc.)

Here's a screenshot of the main screen:

I hope to be able to "release" it this week...

-fasteddie399

fasteddie399 · Post by **fasteddie399** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:04 pm

I just realized that maybe I should make a new thread for this idea...

Sorry for posting in the wrong thread

fasteddie399

Post by **Mike Nike** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:57 am

Every tool, i have written yet, would not be necessary in the case it will be replaced on an official way by Ande (or partly also by other developers).
Nearly each tool might be also a kind of feature request, since it is some kind of tool, TS does not offer yet.

Yesterday i showed fasteddie my old TS 0.86 tools, not showing any TS 1.00 tools yet, like an IP-Collector tool (which might represent a part of the statistic feature in the planned ServerAdminTool TS 0.86 Version 0.7, if some remember).

Now though, here only some image of my old record html generator, which was working like a record viewer, showing additional statistics of the imported record database, including multiselection for comparing for example just teammembers with eachothers with TS 0.86 default cars in Tracks by Author Ande. Actually a very nice tool, the problem was just, that i stopped the development, since other projects had higher priority (learning Delphi parts for the usage of supporting linux application etc.).

Here one image of an older version:

JimMiE22o2 · Post by **JimMiE22o2** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:05 pm

your program doesn't work for me,

. says it outputs too much for my computer, and I have a dell from '02 with 37 gigs on hard drive,

Kobradog · Post by **Kobradog** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:01 pm

Would it be totally twisted & sick to wish for a button assignment to turn the bleeping prediction warning text off? If so, I'd like to wish for it.

I moved & nowadays my connection (cable modem) is a pretty unstable one ping-wise. Most of the time I could handle the wildly varying ping, but the blinking warning in the lower right corner is driving me crazy.

Like Britney Spears once said:

"You drive me crazy
I just can't sleep
I'm so excited, I'm in too deep
Crazy, but it feels alright
Baby thinkin of you keeps me up all night"

Oh wait... it certainly doesn't feel alright.

Post by **Badeend** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:32 pm

As i mentioned before, isn't it quite easy to build in a timestamp function in the chat screen?

And another request for the track editor: it would be nice if there was some kind of a 'snap to objects' function and a zoom function. When i finish a track i often see small lines which aren't filled. Those functions would be quite handy

dby · Post by **dby** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:17 am

Improving the track editor might be a smart move. To me at least, being able to make tracks is half the charm of this game.

y4nn1ck · Post by **y4nn1ck** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:19 pm

Hello

I don't see if some ask this, i think it can be interresting to have partial time on a track, maybe with a new element in the track editor like a control point, that we can place on a track to have t1 t2 t3... time, to know where we lose time

Mouse · Post by **Mouse** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:43 pm

i like that idea, also will help to see if we are faster than others in some parts of the track. nice!

Chukie · Post by **Chukie** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:47 pm

I all ready told you (Ande) about this in irc, but I'll say it in here too. Ignore function, i.e. such as in IRC, would be great in TS too.

Jazzyclub · Post by **Jazzyclub** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:45 pm

i prefer the new theme system posted by me some day ago, it can be easy to make and can be easy to make theme for noobs or pro too

Jazzyclub · Post by **Jazzyclub** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:44 am

A new feat to compress the tracks in .GZ like the new feat AI, it can give less lag when someone join in a server where are new tracks for him and take less time to download it and...
So for me is a good thing

Jarno · Post by **Jarno** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:05 am

hmmm... Ande tell us if there is any news

Planning of new version or so...
What is coming next and when

dby · Post by **dby** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:12 pm

It would be really nice to be able to group together several tiles into a large tile.

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This way I can design something, lets say a long curve, consisting of several tiles. Group them together and re-use that whole curve like one single tile, which can be rotated and placed with a single click.

If a tile group is used more than once, it will save a few lines in the trk file - which cuts file size.

If a group of small tiles is used to make something bigger, let's say a crowd of people consisting of just a few small images used over and over... If that is used around the entire track like I've done, you'll end up with a large trk file. If you just make one image of that group like Jazzy, you'll end up with larger image files. So also here are some kB to save.

You can easily re-use your favorite TileGroups from track to track by simple copy/paste.

And from a general set of, say, "fastfood joint"-tiles, we can create and share an endless amount of variations of fastfood joints.

Jazzyclub · Post by **Jazzyclub** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:20 pm

If ande have fixed this bug or have added this feat you can use 2 times include, so you can use original tiles2.til + your .til where you have edited your custom tiles from original images.

Hengari · Post by **Hengari** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:31 am

I didn't notice anyone requesting that there could be shown the best lap times with each car before selecting the car in the server chat window below the track-preview picture.

This way there would be more time to pick a car and to discuss lap times on next track.

Also when the race ends and before the next race it would be nice to know how close the just driven time was on personal best lap time. It takes lot of time to go through the records option after race and searching own times.

So in the server chat -window there could be two track preview pictures shown. One for the next track with personal best / record lap times and one for the previous track with personal best / record lap times. To save space there could be just the personal best times shown.

At least with 1024x768 resolution there is lot of empty space to put these extra information and it could be an option to turn on/off for smaller resolutions.

ps. clock is too much to explain this all so that everyone would understand

dby · Post by **dby** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:46 am

I've been thinking about similar things, and support your suggestions Hengari.

Any comments about the TileGroup idea? Maybe there are some drawbacks I haven't thought about?

Ande · Post by **Ande** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:23 am

dby wrote: Any comments about the TileGroup idea? Maybe there are some drawbacks I haven't thought about?

How exactly was that tile group idea different from the TileGroup system that is already there? (Search TileGroup in tiles.til.) Or did you just mean that people should use it more?

About all other ideas, I have read everything but can't promise yet anything

.

Jazzyclub · Post by **Jazzyclub** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:31 am

its a good feat too when the race end, when you press tab button 2 times you can see a sort of players position, my idea is: after all have finished the race show an huge race result in the center of screen like most popular car games.

dby · Post by **dby** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:10 pm

Ande wrote:
dby wrote: Any comments about the TileGroup idea? Maybe there are some drawbacks I haven't thought about?
How exactly was that tile group idea different from the TileGroup system that is already there? (Search TileGroup in tiles.til.) Or did you just mean that people should use it more?

About all other ideas, I have read everything but can't promise yet anything .

Doh! How could I miss that. Now I feel stupid.

Some of the tiles couldn't possibly exist without this function... so obvious... yes it should be used more, I will now at least.

diesel 999 · Post by **diesel 999** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:51 am

Hello.
I think in " TS Manual (Additional resources ) " must be a "TurboSliders Records" link to www.ts1.jollygoodgames.com/records website and DESCRIPTION how to enter / export Local / Personal Records there.

There are many New and Old players who dont know how to use this feature...

road_oktane · Post by **road_oktane** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:49 pm

Ande, how are your toughts about pitstop system by now? 8)

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