@Mrtn I didn't look it back yet but for how i saw it during race it was to rough you cross behind me again fair enoguh but then you just killed me out of the track without giving room, I didnt had a feeling i could avoid it and I was already quite far on the outside.... but that wsa just a sign for you to take that room too i guess lol.
I had such bad race, I missed pit entry and had to drive on.. I thought pit entry was a bit later lol... And I had 3 accidents where my car basicly stopped.
When I quit i thought Dedes fu was about my chat... I got so stressed during that race it was unreal, I still had to do lots of rl stuff but everything that happened in the race wasnt fun either. Also some guys didnt give way while they were getting lapped quite early and next corner they try to overtake again
Time to forget this race
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I just checked replay once again and....hmmm, you might be right Mike.Well my intention was not to block but to defend the position. So if you wanted to pass me you would have to go for the outside part, but then it was time for me to go to the outside to approach the turn correctly, thats why i turned again. But yeah...i think it could be considered blocking even if it wasnt my intention.Mike Nike wrote:
the race...
lap 1: i didnt read if the rule is there or not, but alfonso defended right and then left and blocked me, which used to be illegal in f1 and f1sl, i think.
Sorry for that...was a test race anyway!
Much worst was what LANZ made last race, sending me to pick nick! 
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Hmmm...these is the kind of event that its a bit hard to decide. I saw replay 2 times, one in normal speed and the other on slow speed. First impression i got on normal speed was that Mrtin took the space you provided (i think you made the turn too wide), and i think i would have made teh same (which i did as well on my race but dont remember wich lap). In some way, when you were left on the outside you should have breaked. But when i saw on Slow speed, i got the impression that it was indeed too rough! Well, coming from Martin it doesnt surprise me.Pingu wrote:Can anyone judge the accident between me and Mrtn (who else:p) at the last corner of lap 26? So go replay when the number says 25. Who's at fault if any? Idk when i look it back in server replay, seems rough right
The thing is, thats why i presented already some appeals, even if it doesnt bring anything in terms of standings. The way i think Race Control should work is, punishing for repeated behavior. So, its a minor event BUT, cause teh driver in question supposely has already similar incidents and got warnings, then on this occasion Race Control should take a more severe punishment.
But to be honest i dont really know how to judge this. How i would analyse it would be fault for Martin but...not 100%. I say this cause of the previous seconds of that moment. Martin lost time on the 2 previous turns and was messing up his lap. Pingu was obviously faster on that time and so i believe Martin should have "let you" pass with no hussle! I mean, at least not with this contact on this turn!
Thats my oppinion! Martin, nothing against you as you might already know. I tried to be as partial as i could, really!
EDIT: Ok, check beggining of lap 16/36 on first turn. I had a similar sittuation but with a slower driver. He went to grass cause i entered on the inside. But this case its slightly different cause i was overlapping him and he should have give away earlier, so i didnt really got remorse or so.
EDIT2: Ok, check Lap 27/36 on the same turn as your incident! Me and Mike! Same situation, i went inside and Mike was on the outside. He did break a bit not to go out and i pass inside. He eventually touched the grass a bit but wasnt so strong as with you. We both managed the situation pretty nice i would say.
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About that situation i have to say that it was a racing incident and a fair Driver would have waited! But Mrtn is not really fair and should over think his behavior! He totally disrespected the Sporting Regulations:
5.5. if the overtake is dirty give the position back
5.8. driving backwards not allowed
6.3. leave pits on the provided path
he didn't respected those rules and if this race would of been a points race a punishment of 20sec to his total race time would follow!
5.5. if the overtake is dirty give the position back
5.8. driving backwards not allowed
6.3. leave pits on the provided path
he didn't respected those rules and if this race would of been a points race a punishment of 20sec to his total race time would follow!
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1930 to 1932: From the original idea to the first race:
Ernst Christ is the true father of the Hockenheimring: It was in 1930 that this young assistant timekeeper came up with a plan to build a racetrack in his home town of Hockenheim. The town's mayor, Philipp Klein, supported the project, and, on Christmas Day, 1931, the munici-pal council unanimously approved the plans for the new circuit. The building work began on March 23, 1932, and only two months later, on May 25, a dream came true when the first motorcycle race in Hockenheim got under way. For this small town, it marked the beginning of an era that would make its name famous throughout the world.
1938: From triangular to oval:
Just six years later, in 1938, the circuit was fundamentally changed. The triangular course was modified to form the circuit that was basically used until the end of 2001. Through the inclusion of the Ostkurve, the Hockenheimring took on its famous oval form and, with the track being made wider at the same time, it became a true high-speed circuit. In terms of safety, the new "Kurpfalzring" was at that time considered exemplary.
1947 to 1963: The restart:
In the Second World War, the Hockenheimring had been seriously damaged. Tracked vehicles had demolished the roadway and the wooden structures had been torn down. Nevertheless, the motor sports fans in the region were keen to get things going again, and in 1947, the Hockenheim-Ring GmbH was established to look after the economic side of the organisation. On May 11, 1947, only two years after the end of the War, cars started thundering around the circuit again. The first German Motorcycle Grand Prix was held at Hockenheim on May 19, 1957.
1961 to 1966: The Motodrom is born:
At the beginning of the sixties, because of the new Mannheim-Walldorf motorway, changes to the Hockenheimring became unavoidable. In 1961, Ernst Christ came up with the spectator-friendly Motodrom concept. The building work began in spring 1964. On May 22, 1966, the then German Transport Minister, Dr. Hans-Christoph Seebohm, opened the new Motodrom for the German Motorcycle Grand Prix.
Since 1970: Formula 1:
The royal class came to the Kurpfalz 35 years ago: On August 2, 1970, the first Formula 1 race was held in Hockenheim. More than 100,000 spectators witnessed Jochen Rindt's victory in a Lotus-Ford. In 1971, Formula 1 returned to the Nürburgring, but in 1976, Niki Lauda had a serious crash on the Nordschleife. After that, Formula 1 came back to Hockenheim in 1977. There was one interruption – in 1985 for the opening of the new Nürburgring. Ever since then, the German Formula 1 Grand Prix has been held
1999 to 2003: Rebuilding work:
Because the old circuit was too long (6.8 km), and because various sections of it ran through dense woods where it was inaccessible for spectators, plans were forged in 1999 to design a shorter circuit with more possibilities for overtaking. On December 21, 2001, Hockenheim-Ring Besitz GmbH received approval for the project, and work began on February 4, 2002.
On completion of the rebuilding work at a cost of some 62 million euros, the Hockenheimring was now more attractive than ever. Two kilometres shorter, the new circuit guaranteed plenty of exciting overtaking manoeuvres, and, with the new stands, the capacity increased from 83,000 to 120,000. The new motoring safety centre was a further new attraction.
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@Lanz:
5.5. if the overtake is dirty give the position back
5.8. driving backwards not allowed
6.3. leave pits on the provided path
Yes, I agree that I was wrong and violated all those three articles. But because it was a test quali/race and I had really terrible first 10 laps...thats why I was just testing some things and didn't respect the rules that much. And because of that, sorry (Woki and Pingu) for the incidents that I caused... But on Sunday I really try to be fair and respectful.
And about that accident with Pingu. Yes, I was slower than him and made some mistakes... but being slower doesn't mean that I have to give away my position without a fight? Pingu overtook me and I did everything to get the position back.
After the move was done, my first reaction was to give back the position. But because of the accident Pingu was like 3sek behind and between us were another car. Thats why I didn't gave my position back and decided to race on.
But from now on, if I have been really rough (stealing speed, hitting heavily from behind etc), i'm trying to give back the positions that I gained. And if I fail to do that or if I think that it is not necessary then guys, feel free to submit your appeals and complaints. If Race Control finds that I have been wrong, I deserve a penalty.
@Lanz:
5.5. if the overtake is dirty give the position back
5.8. driving backwards not allowed
6.3. leave pits on the provided path
Yes, I agree that I was wrong and violated all those three articles. But because it was a test quali/race and I had really terrible first 10 laps...thats why I was just testing some things and didn't respect the rules that much. And because of that, sorry (Woki and Pingu) for the incidents that I caused... But on Sunday I really try to be fair and respectful.
And about that accident with Pingu. Yes, I was slower than him and made some mistakes... but being slower doesn't mean that I have to give away my position without a fight? Pingu overtook me and I did everything to get the position back.
After the move was done, my first reaction was to give back the position. But because of the accident Pingu was like 3sek behind and between us were another car. Thats why I didn't gave my position back and decided to race on.
But from now on, if I have been really rough (stealing speed, hitting heavily from behind etc), i'm trying to give back the positions that I gained. And if I fail to do that or if I think that it is not necessary then guys, feel free to submit your appeals and complaints. If Race Control finds that I have been wrong, I deserve a penalty.
nice that you show some remorse!Mrtn wrote:Hi
@Lanz:
5.5. if the overtake is dirty give the position back
5.8. driving backwards not allowed
6.3. leave pits on the provided path
Yes, I agree that I was wrong and violated all those three articles. But because it was a test quali/race and I had really terrible first 10 laps...thats why I was just testing some things and didn't respect the rules that much. And because of that, sorry (Woki and Pingu) for the incidents that I caused... But on Sunday I really try to be fair and respectful.
And about that accident with Pingu. Yes, I was slower than him and made some mistakes... but being slower doesn't mean that I have to give away my position without a fight? Pingu overtook me and I did everything to get the position back.
After the move was done, my first reaction was to give back the position. But because of the accident Pingu was like 3sek behind and between us were another car. Thats why I didn't gave my position back and decided to race on.
But from now on, if I have been really rough (stealing speed, hitting heavily from behind etc), i'm trying to give back the positions that I gained. And if I fail to do that or if I think that it is not necessary then guys, feel free to submit your appeals and complaints. If Race Control finds that I have been wrong, I deserve a penalty.
well see later what that time is worth!Tijny wrote:beat my 30.144, bitches!Lanz wrote:Hockenheim
NiceAfinfas wrote:29.869s!!!
Yeah...i thought it was the kind of humor that it was self understood!
Dede style right! Yeah, i admit.....i havent made a single lap on the next track as i wont show up to the race unfortunately but....i think i will make some laps to show you how its possible to make that time!
EDIT: Replay of the laps you made!!??? Would be welcome!
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Welcome to the club!Lanz wrote:my pb is so slow atm that i would be ashamed showing it!Afinfas wrote:EDIT: Replay of the laps you made!!??? Would be welcome!
I made just now a couple of laps and....i think im glad to say that i will not be at the next race as i really dont like this track!
Too short for me and a slow track compared with reality where is one of the most fastest races you have!Or i dont really understand it.
My PB till now its 0.5s less then highest time published: 30.641s! This last turn is horrible. I think the whole trick from this track is that one! I simply dont know how is best to make it. No idea at all....
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Pingu
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Mouse
Augusto
liambaker
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Lanz
Matic
Pablinho
Simmser
power
Shyguy
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Szymek
Wokinger
Hevonen
Afinfas
Tijny
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So these are the current Teams at the moment! 1 spot still free at Audi and Mercedes and 2 spots at BMW! so if you plan to race with us this Sunday and your not in the list you should subscribe yourself!
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Etmil
dede
Pingu
(xzeal)
Mouse
Augusto
liambaker
BMW
Lanz
Matic
Pablinho
Simmser
power
Shyguy
Mercedes
Szymek
Wokinger
Hevonen
Afinfas
Tijny
Mike
Mrtn
So these are the current Teams at the moment! 1 spot still free at Audi and Mercedes and 2 spots at BMW! so if you plan to race with us this Sunday and your not in the list you should subscribe yourself!
The car you race on Sunday you have to keep through out the Season, if you want to switch do it now!!!!
I'd like to switch to Mercedes, they seem like the majorest team.
Seems majorly slow!Afinfas wrote:Opinions?
Major recorded!Afinfas wrote:Or Videos?
would make sense if it was Reirom. He's really improving his sneaky tactics. But I don't understand if he want to race so bad, he tries to behave as good as possible. And then he could say something like, huhauhauha i was racing with you guys for a year until you guys noticed. Now hes still a tard on another name.